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Reader level of the book

Amit Ghorpade
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Hi,
as the name of the book suggests, is the book for beginners in hibernate and JPA.
Does it require any previous knowledge of these technologies.




Thanks in advance .


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Pradeep bhatt
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If it is for beginner no previous knowledge is required.


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Cameron Wallace McKenzie
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My latest book, Hibernate Made Easy, takes the reader from the most basic tasks of setting up a database, downloading Hibernate, and installing the JDK, to much more advanced topics such as the Hibernate cache, implementing DAOs with Java 5 Generics, and even some best practices and design patterns.

I hate to classify this as a beginners book, as database persistence from a Java program is itself a fairly advanced topic, wouldn't you say? So, any reader would need a bit of a background in Java basics, running programs, doing loops, and even some basic database fundamentals, such as knowing how to write a basic SELECT * FROM USER query. Certainly this is not highly advanced Java or database knowledge, but as you would probably agree, to do Java based data persistence, you need some knowledge of Java and to a lesser extent, databases.

But the book does start with the basics, showing you how to do an install, and from there, how to write and compile a very simple Java program that uses Hibernate.

Furthermore, the book doesn't require you to install ANT or Maven or any other technologies - just Java and Hibernate. I believe this makes development much easier. Having said that though, the examples are just Java, so you can run these with Notepad and the javac compiler, or you could just as easily reproduce the examples within Eclipse, RSA, IRAD, WSAD or NetBeans.

Hibernate is powerful, but it's also fun and easy to use. Learning Hibernate should also be fun and easy, and that's what this book tries to achieve.

-Cameron McKenzie
Amit Ghorpade
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Thanks for the reply Cameron,
and yes I totally agree that Hibernate and persistence are advanced topics in themselves. And also anyone going for the book needs good Java and a bit of database.


Thank you again for the clarification.
Pradeep bhatt
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I thought beginner means beginner to the topic (hibernate)rather than beginner to java/persistance itself. So there can be beginners book to hibernare because it introduces hibernate. There can be advanced books on hibernate which talks about optimization and tuning. So I guess this book is beginners book and I want to win this book.
Amit Ghorpade
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Originally posted by Cameron
My latest book, Hibernate Made Easy, takes the reader from the most basic tasks of setting up a database, downloading Hibernate, and installing the JDK, to much more advanced topics such as the Hibernate cache, implementing DAOs with Java 5 Generics, and even some best practices and design patterns.

I hate to classify this as a beginners book, as database persistence from a Java program is itself a fairly advanced topic, wouldn't you say?


posted by Prad
So I guess this book is beginners book


as you can see the author hates to classify this as a beginners book
so although its for beginners also, it is not a beginners book at all
Anyways I am satisfied by the author's clarification.
[ June 05, 2008: Message edited by: Amit Ghorpade ]
Pradeep bhatt
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Mr.Amit

Read this thread
http://www.coderanch.com/t/218611/ORM/java/Hibernate-Made-Easy
Amit Ghorpade
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Hi Mr. Prad

went through that thread but still I says the same thing, the book has reader level beginner through much more advanced.
 
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