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Web Services (The IT Industry) ON A ROADMAP TO DISASTER 2007 ONWARDS ? Do U Think So?

Marcus Raphael
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Do you think when Web Services is the thing, all software engineers will be in a bad employment situation, along with other IT Jobs??
P.S Just read a report about the idea of software being used as a utility, predicted for 2007 onwards?
Howard Kushner
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Hi Marcus,
This should probably be moved to Web services. Maybe the moderator, Jason Adams, will take care of that. Meanwhile, I have been teaching and consulting at organizations where Web services are already reality. B2B, B2C and EAI rely upon a Service Oriented Architecture (SOA). Now that the IBM WebSphere Application server has moved from Apache SOAP to Axis, things will really take off. Watch and see. My advice to you is get ready, 'cuz the future is already here.
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Marcus Raphael
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Hello, The reason i ask this is beacause i am currently doing an MSc in Software Engineering. Do you think software engineers will still be as hevaily relied upon, when this technology takes off? Can you give me any advice upon what you think is a secure role in I.T for the next 10 years?
Howard Kushner
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Hi Marcus,
I know that my role is secure based on my ability to stay ahead of the pack. I used to carry the title software engineer on my business card, but now I prefer consultant. The title is not what's important.
The passion is.
If you love your work, and like to play with the new and exciting stuff, and need a challenge, then roll up your sleeves and get goin'.
Some will survive and some will not. That's the nature of the world in which we live. I survive based on my wits. I try to remember the difference between activity and accomplishment. I teach, and I also author courseware. I mentor and consult. I write books. I love the Java Ranch. What more can I say? I used to have the goal of becoming a Java Architect, but now the title is not as important to me as customer delight. I do whatever needs to be done. I hope my ramblings help answer the questions with which you are wrestling.
Regards,
Marcus Raphael
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I still have the opportunity to enter other domains in I.T. I have no experience, i completed my B.S.c Computer Science degree, and went straight into MSc Software Enginnering. I ask you this question because you have a clearer understanding of what the industry is like based on experience. So what roles would you suggest for someone, with my qualifications and no experience for entry?
Should i be worried?
Marcus Raphael
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I still have the opportunity to enter other domains in I.T. I have no experience, i completed my B.S.c Computer Science degree, and went straight into Software Enginnering. I ask you this question because you have a clearer understanding of what the industry is like based on experience. So what roles would you suggest for someone, with my qualifications and no experience for entry?
Should i be worried?
jason adam
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Yup, definitely should be in that forum, so I'm moving it there.
Ok, pet peave time, but my last name is Adam, no s
Howard Kushner
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Originally posted by Jason Adam(s)
Ok, pet peave time, but my last name is Adam, no s

I should have known! My own son's name is Samuel Adam, not Samuel Adams! ! My wife would have really been off. She already found out about the beer named after the patriot... but I digress (as usual).
Lasse Koskela
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It may very well be that the employment situation of software engineers is getting worse every year, but I doubt that this can be blamed on web services.


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Nate Steiner
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Originally posted by Marcus Raphael:
I still have the opportunity to enter other domains in I.T. I have no experience, i completed my B.S.c Computer Science degree, and went straight into MSc Software Enginnering. I ask you this question because you have a clearer understanding of what the industry is like based on experience. So what roles would you suggest for someone, with my qualifications and no experience for entry?
Should i be worried?

Marcus,
You are in the typcial catch-22 situation - need experience, but not a lot of people are hiring entry-level positions for you to gain experience.
I would suggest finding where your passion is in the IT space, and gain seom personal experience mastering it. I was in a similar situation 6 years ago, and really loved web development. So, I spent a lot of time fine-tuning my skills in that area. Once I felt comfortable with my skills, I went into business for myself and found my first client. I wasn't in it for the money; I knew I had to have some sort of pseudo-professional experience dealing with clients and going through the full life cycle of web application development.
Did it go smoothly? Not at first, but that was the point - gain technical and business experience.
That first client snowballed into 6 clients by the time I graduated, and I had a nice portfolio for my resume - experience that put me ahead of a lot of candidates.
Now, Web Services will not cause a decline in the demand for software engineers - it just provides another, hopefully valuable, skill set that appears to have a niche in the IT space. If you are passionate about Web Services, look into SOA and EIA, both of which have vendors building frameworks around Web Services to meet the needs of businesses.
Stability is a function of ability. The more able, the more stable.
- Nate
 
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