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not to be contrary, but the mobile link you posted is not really comparable to MIDP apps running resident on a device, but more in line with an IDE that creates markup language for display.
here's something interesting: Target stores began the first large scale smart card based loyalty program in the United States last September 2001. Target sent out 2.5 MILLION java smart cards, along with free smart card readers to its customers. In addition to providing secure access to their store account, consumers can go online on their home computers to download the loyalty program�s electronic coupons onto their smart cards. Target will redeem the coupons at the POS in stores. to get Target smart cards: http://www.target.com/common/financialservices/target_visa_main.jhtml
Originally posted by Raj Birru: Thanks for the links. I particularly liked the following link about why to use J2ME. http://www.blueboard.com/j2me/why.htm
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Actually, I really liked the special ASP tag library in .NET Mobile kit. I think we should have a similar tag library in JSP to support WAP/WML devices. Is there such effort in the JSP community?
i played around with some of their stuff before (not wml though), but they have some taglibs for wml: go to #93+ http://www.servletsuite.com/jsp.htm i used to hang around this site when i was into JSP a lot more than i am now...it might have some additional info: http://www.jspinsider.com/index.jsp
Originally posted by Michael Yuan: Actually, I really liked the special ASP tag library in .NET Mobile kit. I think we should have a similar tag library in JSP to support WAP/WML devices. Is there such effort in the JSP community?
That is pretty cool. Thanks. But still, it would be nice if someone can propose a JSR and standardize this. Considerring that there are so many J2ME JSRs out there that do not make much sense, a standard JSP tag library that can compete directly with M$ is much needed!
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Hi sanjuan, Thanks for the correction. Appreciate it. Regards, Deb
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not correcting, just clarifying. i made the same assumption myself at first. just as in the smart card and other small devices arena, by a series of fortuitous events, java has made much better inroads, and been much more successful, than other technologies. i believe it has something to do with the fact that in these markets, the primary goal of java ("portability") has been remarkably in synch with the goals of the major multiple vendors in each market...much much more so than in either the server market or definitely in the desktop (where you have one BIG vendor, so what's the point of portability?).
Originally posted by Debbie Argulkar: Hi sanjuan, Thanks for the correction. Appreciate it. Regards, Deb
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Just read an article on page 5 of the August 1, 2002 Edition of Software Development Times called "SmartPhone 2002 Close to Release". The first line reads... "Microsoft Corp. is close to releasing SmartPhone 2002, the long-awaited verion of it's Windows CE operating system designed for cell phones and other mobile telephony devices..." SmartPhone 2002 Regards,
they've been "close to releasing" that thing since forever. who really cares? WinCE/Pocket PC in the form of Compaq/HP and Casio can't even get its act together in the handheld market (where it's being swamped by the Palm OS). the main competitor of MIDP is BREW (no matter what qualcomm says). there are about 1 million phones running BREW right now, on many different kinds of brands, and rising fast. and, as we all know, consumers don't really care what tech is powering their apps so long as it works. [ August 01, 2002: Message edited by: a sanjuan ]
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Thank you all for the interesting discussions. Excuse me for my ignorance. I know very little about J2ME and WAP/WML. What is MIDP and how does it relate to J2ME? It was mentioned in above posts that 1 million phones are running BREW. How many are running MIDP (J2ME)? It seems to me that J2SE, J2EE, J2ME are all spreading fast and are ahead of MSFT’s counterparts.
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here's a page that gives some numbers: http://www.blueboard.com/j2me/why.htm#phones the number of standard MIDP phones is obviously much much less than that 23 million number bandied about. [ August 01, 2002: Message edited by: a sanjuan ]
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