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A big thank you to the ranch + exam feedback

R Arun
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Joined: Apr 20, 2002
Posts: 33
I'd like to thank all the wonderfully helpful people at the ranch. This is an excellent and indispensible site for certification prep.
A very special thanks to Maha Anna for her enormously useful certification site. Like so many others I thought I was ready for the exam, then stumbled upon her site and had to think again. The discussions on her site as well as those in this forum helped me greatly with my preparation.
Thanks to Jose, Corey and Reid amongst others for their useful answers to my questions.
I passed the exam today with 94% - I missed 3 questions. The exam was very easy. I was dissapointed when I found my score because I thought I had done better. I am more proud of the fact that I scored 75% on Valentin's mock.
In fact the exam was so easy that it concerns me -it reduces the prestige of holding a certification.
There are lots of questions on Threads and I/O. The qs on threads test if you understand concurrency, synchronization and the methods that support it - wait, notify etc. nothing tough. The questions on I/O test you on knowlege of the various classes and their constructors. Nothing more detailed.
There were two questions that did test knowledge of API methods in the File and Math classes.
The 3 questions on AWT were limited to layout and event handling - very basic stuff. Nothing on the various components.
The questions on util test understanding of the types of classes/interfaces rather than their details.
Finally a bothersome point: the quality of the exam was not as good as I would have expected from Sun. There were 2 ambigously worded questions and 1 question that absolutely, positively, certainly had no answer, and yet asked for 2 selections!
It was a very simple question testing understanding of == on distinctly newed objects vs. the use of the equals() method using the wrapper classes which we all know returns false when the class types are not the same.
This question appeared early and disturbed me since you obviously spend a lot of time pondering over it and get confused. I would like to try and take this up with Sun. I wonder if there is anything that can be done about it. Any suggestions anybody? Does anyone have any contacts at SunEd?
2 questions asked for an entry of the answer: enter the "value of the variable". The variable in question was a String in both instances. So it is confusing as to whether the answer should be "answer" or just answer without quotes. I am sure they can clean up such ambiguity in the test.
Though the prometric site tells you that the exam is 2hrs 15 minutes long, once you push start you only have 2 hours. The 15 minutes are apparently for other preparatory stuff. They dont tell you this.
The monitors are very very bad. Lots of flicker. I had a headache by the end of the exam. This despite picking one that had less flicker than the others.
Finally to those that are still preparing - mock, mock and mock some more. If you have taken all the free mocks available and understood the concepts being tested, you have covered all the kinds of questions that are asked. The questions are not tricky - they are not trying to get you with tricky unreachable code etc. I was overprepared, but it was a good opportunity to delve into the language.
Thanks to Paul Wheaton and all those that have created and maintain this site.
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Corey McGlone
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Joined: Dec 20, 2001
Posts: 3271
Congratulations, R Arun! I sure wouldn't be disappointed with that score. You did beautifully. I hope to see you around the Ranch some more in the future!
Great job!

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