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I think, they will increase the difficulty of the exam... as the objectives are less than 1.2. So, ranchers, java gurus and Marcus sir, It's the time for you to help us...
Joined: Jun 19, 2002
Well there is the additional knowledge of the Wrapper classes and seems the Collections objectives has increased. and also assertions. But still, I don't know why would Sun take these two important Objectives (AWT and I/O) out of the programmer exam. to me it seems that having the SCJP2 for 1.2 is more valuable!
to me it seems that having the SCJP2 for 1.2 is more valuable!
I agree 100% with you Amir. Most of the people are going to neglect AWT and IO, which is very difficult for their programming career. That's the reason I have taken the exam now itself, which gave me a chance to study both IO and AWT thoroughly.
Thanks,<br />Thiru<br />[SCJP,SCWCD,SCBCD]
Joined: May 27, 2002
yes I agree with you. Atleast, they would have kept IO, which is very important for real java projects
Originally posted by Becky Nagel: Actually, Sun just changed their policy -- they're now going to version their Java certs, just like they do right now with Solaris. Hi Becky, Welcome to JavaRanch! And thanks for the info. Junilu
Originally posted by Joshua White: Has anyone heard if the exam will be 160 questions like the beta or will it be 60 questions like the 1.2 exam? I doubt that it will be 160 questions long like the beta. That's just too gruelling. It'll probably closer to 60, something you can reasonably expect to complete in two hours. Junilu
Maybe Sun took out I/O beacause of the nio package in 1.4, and it would be to much to study, or maybe they want to focus on language fundamentals and the core elements, everything else might be seen as extensions of this core. Francisco
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So,It just become easier ??? Without awt and I/O,the scope of the exam will be highly truncated. where can I get the 1.4 beta exam ? thanks.
Joined: Jul 29, 2001
The policy will take effect later this summer when Sun releases a new version of its Certified Java Programmer (SCJP) exam. At that time, instead of retiring the older exam as has been done in the past, Sun will split the certification into two tracks: SCJP for Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition, version 1.4 (new exam) SCJP for Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition, version 1.2 (old exam) The statements above mean that there will have 2 exam after August,scjp 1.2 and scjp 1.4,right??
This new exam is interesting news. I have already paid for the 1.2 exam. Does anyone know if my 1.2 voucher will apply to the 1.4 exam. To prepare for the exam, I have developed a mock exam web page. I have a total of sixty questions distributed across 3 mock exams of twenty questions each. The questions cover inheritance, initialization, inner classes, casting, operators, and control flow. I will probably add exception handling tomorrow. As a result of developing the exams my language fundamentals are now very good, but my AWT and IO skills need some work. If my voucher is applicable to the new exam, then maybe I should just wait. I would like to get some feedback on my mock exam. http://www.geocities.com/danchisholm2000/ For example, I'm wondering if it appears to be too easy or too difficult or just about right. Please take a look and let me know what you think. Thank you, Dan
Dan Chisholm<br />SCJP 1.4<br /> <br /><a href="http://www.danchisholm.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Try my mock exam.</a>
dan, i have answered the questions in the june28 mock exam. overall questions look tough. some answers need explanation. is the real exam as tough as this.?
Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Originally posted by zarina mohammad: dan, i have answered the questions in the june28 mock exam. overall questions look tough. some answers need explanation. is the real exam as tough as this.?
Zarina, Thank you for your response. My personal opinion is that my mock exam might be more difficult than the real exam. I hope to hear more opinions from the people on this message board so that we will have a consensus. Thank you, Dan
They took out two broad topics, and added 3 smaller topics: Out: java.io, java.awt In: assertions, wrapper classes, and hashCode method implementations Visit http://www.enterprisedeveloper.com/jcertify if interested in preparing for the 1.4 platform programmer exam The nio package was certainly a factor in removing the I/O package. And awt being present without Swing has always been an issue. This keeps the exam focused on the language, which has been it's goal since first being introduced by Sun. Regards, Dave
My question would be: is it really worthwhile for someone who is SCJP for the Java2 Platform, v1.2 to take the 1.4 examination? What does anyone else think on this? Even with the non-retirement of the original certification, I don't know that it really would stand out any further, save to say that you're staying up to date with the latest version of the SDK. It's hardly like this is the first time they've done this - they did the same with the jump from 1.1 to 1.2, which means they will probably do it yet again in the future.
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SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
AFAIK, Sun gave a specific time period to take the SCJP 1.4 beta exam and that time period had already passed. All you have to do right now is wait for the new exam this August.
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Joined: Jun 27, 2002
Thanks Paulo for your quick reply, But, How was this beta exam then? Meaning that was it just like SCJP2 pattern based ? What if anyone clears it, do they get certified from Sun? And how many questions in that? In short I want what is beta exam meant for? As per my knowledge, Sun is launchin SCJP 1.4 exam in Aug. Even though they have excluded IO and AWT from that, I still think to get certified from the latest one(if it really get launched in Aug then only, otherwise no point in waiting for that, right?). What you people say about this? Thanks Mandar Patki
Joined: Apr 29, 2002
From what i have read here in the forum there are 160 items in the beta test
I'm rather confused here... Can anyone tell me: now that there will be two different SCJP2 exams, will I have a different kind of certification if I take the 1.4 than if I take the 1.2 Or will I just be SCJP2 in any case? Does it matter for my degree of certification which one I take? Please help!
Joined: Jun 19, 2002
It will still be SCJP2 as it is still for the Java 2 Platform. Obviously, the objectives are slightly different for the two exams. Both will be available after July.