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The new version of the cetification exam.

Femi Alla
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Joined: Jul 05, 2002
Posts: 79
Hello,
I'm new to this site...
I plan to take SUN's certification exam for java programmers in about a week and while I was going through whatever I could get online concerning the exams, I came a across something on Bill Brodgen's webpage a new version of the exam.
Bill Brogden's webpage is at:
_http://www.lanw.com/java/javacert/default.htm, _Bill's Java
Certification Resources.htm and let me quote him:
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"Upcoming Revision - Summer 2002
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Sun has been beta testing a new exam that should go live this summer.
Supposedly some significant items have been dropped from the
objectives. If you are planning on taking the exam soon, you better
keep track of which objectives are current!"
SUN's website confirms this too. I sent a mail to SUN and got a short reply along the lines of "Yes, a new test would be available in August" But you can choose to take the old one".
I see some people saying they took the 'Beta test', '1.4 test' ....
Can somebody help me out. What is going on?
Did I study all these months for a "Deprecated" version of the exam?
Thanks.


SCJP
Dan Chisholm
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Joined: Jul 02, 2002
Posts: 1865
Femi,
You have come to the right place to read comments concerning the new exam. By the time you read my response, you will have probably read through many of the other threads on the subject. You mentioned Bill Brogdens site and you will probably find that he has had a few words to say on the subject here.
It appears that Sun will offer both versions of the exam. Employers that develop applications that use a lot of AWT, Swing, or IO will probably prefer to see applicants that have passed the 1.2 version of the exam. Employers that develop applications using J2EE technologies will probably be happy with either version of the exam. Of course, that is just my opinion.
Have you tried my mock exam at the URL contained in my signature?
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Femi Alla
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Joined: Jul 05, 2002
Posts: 79
Thanks for the prompt response. In fact, I kept wondering how I never went past the home page of this site all these months. I had just seen your questions while going through stuff on the site.
However, I still feel kind of *** ( I can't think of a word for it). I studied all these months and just when I am about to take the exams. I learn the rules of the game have been changed.
I am grateful for your response.
Alan Chong
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Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Posts: 106
You'd better take the exam as soon as possible
or take the new version next month. Consider if you fail in the first try. You will have to wait two weeks before you can take it again. Then you will be forced to take the new version, and you
have not prepare for it.
David Brafford
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Joined: Feb 11, 2001
Posts: 91
There will be a period of time where both exams
will be offered. I would say it's safe to say
that through calendar year 2002, the 310-025
( 1.2 platform programmer exam ) will be offered.
We went through this once before, when the
Java 2 Programmer exam came out. The Java 1.1
Exam was still offered for almost a year if I
recall before it was retired.
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Femi Alla
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll be taking the exam on Saturday... just say a word of prayer 4 me. Maybe I should just add.. Before coming to Javaranch, I sent an email to someone I had come to respect as an authority on certification issues asking this same question. He rudely sent me back my mail. He's Marcus Greene. I come here and everyone is so helpful.
Thanks.
Dave Vick
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Joined: May 10, 2001
Posts: 3244
Femi
As far as having wasted effort on studying for the old exam, as far as I can tell the majority of the test has remained the same. So the things you've studied will most likely still be on it. The things that have been removed were at one point considered a vital part of the language so you'll most likely find yourself using them repeatedly and the amount of studying you did for those things will probably come in handy then. So it wasn't all wasted effort - think of it as extra credit
In Marcus' defense, he is an author, runs a web site that is almost as succesful as the ranch is , and also teaches classes in Java. He probably gets tons of email a day and, I'm sure, doesn't have time to anser each one in depth. On the other hand you might have caught him on a bad day too. Marcus has always been helpful as far as I know.
Good luck on Saturday.


Dave
David Brafford
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Joined: Feb 11, 2001
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Femi,
Now that Saturday is over, how did you do?
I'm sure you are feeling less stressed out!
Let us know.
Regards,
Dave
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