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Don Bosco
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This question is for people who passed SCJP 1.4
Can u guys tell me the level of difficulty in these topics on a scale of 1-10. 5 being the level of difficulty in marcus green and khalid mock exams.
1)Threads
2)Collections
3)Hashcode
Any reply is greatly appreciated guys


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Alfred Kemety
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I heard on the other forum that there was like 5 -6 Thread question, and people posted said it was diffcult.
Marcus' & Mughal's were made for 1.2 not 1.4, if you read on the Sun site, they say that 1.4 will stress on collections framework, hashCode(), equals(), Wrapper classes. So the exam should be more detailed and more difficult than before regarding these topics.. so study them WELL. I'll take the exam in 2 days, I'll post what I found, so watch out in the other forum.


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Don Bosco
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Thanks Dude!! I'm all ears!
Jessica Sant
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I scored a couple points higher on the real 1.4 test than I did on Marcus' tests. And A LOT better on the real test than I did on Dan's exam.
Hopefully that helps to put things in perspective a bit. I've read quite often that people experience the same thing with Marcus' exam. (if you're taking the 1.4 test, just skip over the IO and AWT questions...)


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Vin Kris
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Well... I took the 1.4 exam last saturday (Nov 9th) and before the test questions were asked, there was a small survey that asked by comfort level (or experience or whatever you want to call it) about various topics. For example, the survey question talks about threads and you gotta say if you are an expert (no help needed), an intermediate (occasional help needed) and so on.
I don't know the purpose of this survey, but i'm guessing that the answers may have been used to select the questions. (Kathy could better explain the reason behind this survey).
I chose 'expert' for most of the questions and I did get 1 difficult question in each of the 3 choices that you listed. I had to spent a considerably long amount of time analyzing the answers. Ofcourse, my score doesn't exactly reflect my answers - but you get the idea.
Kathy Sierra
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Howdy,
The survey is there as part of a wicked plot to ensure you get the hardest possible test based on your current level...
JUST KIDDING
The survey is part of an ongoing process to keep making sure that people who *should* pass, do, and that people who *should not* pass, do not. It does not affect your question set in any way.
The survey is used in a statistical analysis, compared with the individual questions, and they are looking for things like, "this person did not know ANYTHING about threads, but got every thread question correct." Or, this person claims to be expert at threads, but missed every question."
Of course, we have no way of knowing whether or not people are telling the truth in the survey, but it still helps overall. It is MOST important during the beta, because sometimes a question might appear and we discover that the most knowledgeable people interpret it in a more subtle way, and thus get it wrong, while the more beginning person gets it right, and that's the kind of question that would the be thrown out of the exam during the beta process.
So, it really helps if you are as honest as possible in the survey, and your answers will have NO affect on your actual exam questions.
Some day, we may switch to the "adaptive" format, but that is down the road, and you'll know if and when it happens!
have fun,
Kathy


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david eberhardt
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Originally posted by Kathy Sierra:
Howdy,
The survey is there as part of a wicked plot to ensure you get the hardest possible test based on your current level...
JUST KIDDING
...
Some day, we may switch to the "adaptive" format, but that is down the road, and you'll know if and when it happens!
have fun,
Kathy

Adaptive format - "just kidding" or are you serious that it might become "adaptive" ?
That kind of change wouldn't make any sense.
 
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