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Khalid Mughal vs. Kathy Sierra

Sanjay Saxena
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Hi,
I already have Khalid Mughal's book and I have read it. I got my exam scheduled on Jan 2.
I have read a lot about about Kathy's book. Is it a must read? Does it have something extra for the new test(i.e. 1.4)? Do I really need to buy and go through that book too?
Awaiting your comments.
Sanjay
Arijit Ghosh
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I have seen Kathy's book.... There is no way that I can think of taking this exam without going through her book thoroughly !!
Can't comment on the other one as I don't have that !


Regards,<br /> Arijit
Jessica Sant
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my preliminary review -- I've read up to chapter 3 so far, and love it. I used Khalid's book to study for the 1.4 test. And you can definitely pass the test using Khalid's book combined with some extra info on Assertions and some online mock exams (that's exactly what I did).
However.... I think I would have scored higher if I'd read through Kathy's book before my test. It explains things very well -- and I've already caught myself saying "Oh-- that's how it works -- dang I would have gotten that question right had I known that"
.... that's it for now -- you'll have to wait for my official review to be posted in the bunkhouse soon.


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Sanjay Saxena
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...And you can definitely pass the test using Khalid's book combined with some extra info on Assertions and some online mock exams (that's exactly what I did).
Hi Jessica,
Thanks for your reply but..
Could you please tell me something more about Assertions and some mock exams, I mean where will I find them.
I don't think I have enough time left for Kathy's book to read as I'm taking this exam on 2nd January. Any comments!!
Thanks.
Sanjay
Jessica Sant
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Assertions stuff:
study material about ASSERTIONS?
Notes on Assertions
Mock Exams:
From our FAQ: What are the mock exams available?
Sanjay Saxena
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Thank you Arijit, Valentin and Jessica.
Thomas Paul
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When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was a mud wrestling tournament.


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Kathy Sierra
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
When I saw the title of this thread I thought it was a mud wrestling tournament.

Oh, that's not until next month. I'm still in training.
And I don't know if I can "take him" in a wrestling match, but let me tell you, I bet I can kick Mughal's ass (oops -- we're probably not supposed to say "ass" on the forum) at "most technically accurate and descriptive use of the word 'margarita'". Do they even *use* that word in their book? Hah! I think not.
So there you are.
*margarita being a lovely (alcoholic, of course) beverage associated with palm trees, the beach, and Jimmy Buffet songs ("... wasting away in *margaritaville*.., looking for my lost shaker of salt...")
What does this all mean to *you*, the prospective reader? That our book is more festive. I believe their book is best studied in a quiet, serious room, maybe a libarary. Ours is suitable-- appropriate even-- for taking to the local pub.
Cheers,
Kathy
Author, "Core Mud Wrestling" and the companion, "Thinking in Mud Wrestling".
Coming soon: "Enterprise Mud Wrestling"
Sanjay Saxena
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Finally.... ummmm I bought Kathy's book. Initially for 2 hours, I was just trying to make this book my friend but now... now what?
I can only say... SUPERB. I don't have words!! What an **Excellent** way of explaining things.
Thanks Neha (My wife) who forced me to buy this book.
Thanks you all.
John Lee
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Cool! I wish I haven't passed scjp. Wait, I know there is an upgrade exam. But I am so tied up now I don't think I can take it any time soon.
Karthik Balasubramanian
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Hi All...
I just checked in Amazon. They have the following two books...second one looks cheaper..I dont know whats the diff...is it about the edition or developer exam material? I dont know which one to go for?
Pls help me out, which one I should buy?
1. Sun Certified Programmer & Developer for Java 2 Study Guide (Exam 310-035 & 310-027) -- by Kathy Sierra; Paperback
Buy new: $49.99

2. Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2 Study Guide (Exam 310-025) -- Hardcover
Buy new: $34.99 -- Used & new from: $12.88
Thanks,
Karthik
Bert Bates
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Karthik -
Don't go in - it's a trap. The cheaper book is the old version, not written by Kathy - basically a totally different book - it covers the 1.2 exam only.


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Thomas Paul
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And if I remember correctly, the old version sucked. Buy Kathy's book. Buy two and share with a friend or loved one. Buy three and take up mud wrestling.
sun par
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Why not include CJCSG??


Sunita<br />SCJP 1.4
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Best of luck for your exam sanjay!!!
I will grab your book after your Exam
 
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