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Is SCJP worth it

Wilson Mui
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Joined: Apr 09, 2003
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I was suggested to post this question on teh java forum. I am going to be taking my programmer's exam in about 3 weeks. And I've asked around, as to whether that certification really looks good on your resume or not. I've been flamed before by people saying that, just because you have a certificate doesn't mean you know how to program. Sure...and?
So my question is, what do others think? I mean I don't think getting a certificate means you know how to program, but I think the people who usually go get their certificates are programmers who are "good" anyway, and just want a little more credentials. Also do people think possible employers look highly on a SCJP cert.?
William Brogden
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Back during the dotCOM boom I always asked head-hunters if the employers were aware of the certification. When the certification first started, not too many were aware of it but by 2001 it was very well known.
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As for the value of SCPJ... there's two sides to it -- personally I took the exam as a challenge -- to learn the language better than I did and to have a little something on my resume to show that I know it. But, I can also tell you -- just from working on this forum a lot, that there's a lot of people that don't know how to code -- they just memorize the rules and take the test (and many of them get very high scores -- higher than me). If you really want to show a potential employer that not only do you know the language, but that you can program in it, and program in it well look into the SCJD or SCEA exams -- you actually have to develop a full fledged program according to a given spec.
Bryan Helm
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Joined: Apr 07, 2003
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Since SCJD requires SCJP, that is another justification for SCJP. I am also skeptical of SCJP vs. programming talent, but as an experienced Java developer, I can tell you I have learned a lot of details about Java, of which I was previously unaware, from looking at mock exams, even after reading the JLS, and you never know when that kind of fundamental knowledge may become useful. So I am now an advocate of studying for the exam even if you do not actually take it.
Valentin Crettaz
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