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K&B MasterExam clarification

Toby Davis
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After downloading the bonus exam, I have 3 total MasterExams from the CD. I'm unclear on whether questions are unique between the 3 exams:
1. Sun Certified Programmer ...
2. Sun Certified Programmer ... II
3. Master Exam for Sun Certified ...
Here's what I've done so far:
- took #1 (closed book) a few days ago for 88%.
- took #3 (closed book) today 87.5% (875 out of 1000). However, when I looked at the exam results for Master Exam #3, it showed total score AND two categories for my score:
Sun Cert... II with category score of 80
Sun Cert... with category score of 95
It looks like Master Exam #3 is pulling questions from #1 and #2, correct? A good portion of the questions seemed very familiar. I just want to be sure I'm having a fairly unique set of questions per exam, before I take #2 exam...
Thanks.
(Oh, and from other threads I've read, scoring on these mock exams are fairly close to the real thing).
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Andres Gonzalez
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(Oh, and from other threads I've read, scoring on these mock exams are fairly close to the real thing).
yes, verrry close. You're doing pretty well.
I remember I had 3 exams, master exam 1 , master exam 2, but I think the 3rd one was for the developer exam. I might be wrong


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Marlene Miller
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It looks like Master Exam #3 is pulling questions from #1 and #2, correct?

The first line of each question for #1 says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)
The first line of each question for #2 says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)II
The first line of each question for #3 sometimes says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)
and other times says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)II
I worked on #1 last week and #2 this week. As I scan #3, I seem to recognize some questions from both #1 and #2.
So my guess is, you are correct.
(I had trouble finishing 65 questions in 90 minutes. It took me 3 tries on #1 and 2 tries on #2. No one else has mentioned such a problem.)
[ August 05, 2003: Message edited by: Marlene Miller ]
Bert Bates
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You'd think I'd know, but frankly I'm not sure what learnkey has done recently :roll:
I will tell you this, I only wrote ~130 questions for the master exams, so if there are 3 sets, they are reusing questions. As far as the 90 minute time limit, we're REALLY trying to twist the publisher's arm to get that fixed. If a BUNCH of JavaRanchers wrote to Osborne maybe we could light a fire under them!!
Thanks for using the book, and let us know how you do on the real exam!
-Bert


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Toby Davis
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Originally posted by Marlene Miller:

The first line of each question for #1 says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)
The first line of each question for #2 says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)II
The first line of each question for #3 sometimes says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)
and other times says
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java 2 Platform (Exam 310-035)II

Well, I was putting post-it notes over the top of the window so I couldn't see which topic each question covered (hints like that won't be on the real exam I'm sure)... so I wasn't paying attention to titles. Thanks for letting me know, it makes sense now.
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
You'd think I'd know, but frankly I'm not sure what learnkey has done recently :roll:
I will tell you this, I only wrote ~130 questions for the master exams, so if there are 3 sets, they are reusing questions. As far as the 90 minute time limit, we're REALLY trying to twist the publisher's arm to get that fixed. If a BUNCH of JavaRanchers wrote to Osborne maybe we could light a fire under them!!

The "Sun Certified..." exams (one comes with CD and the bonus you can download) probably make up your 130 q's. The "MasterExam" (exam 3) just combines those two, it seems. At least Exam 1 and Exam 2 have different q's, so I feel better.
Originally posted by Bert Bates:

Thanks for using the book, and let us know how you do on the real exam!
-Bert

I'm taking it day after tomorrow, will let you know how it goes! Good book, by the way...
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[ August 05, 2003: Message edited by: Toby Davis ]
Toby Davis
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Forgot to add: the MasterExam #3 (that combines that first two) DOES give you 2 hours. Strange how #1 and #2 only give 90 mins, like you mentioned. Either way, I was able to finish them in a little over an hour... so I'm not too worried.
Andres Gonzalez
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hmm.. then I missed one whole exam
anyways .. too late.
I think the book is excellent and enjoyed every single page. But the master exam from learn key is a disaster. It's not about the questions, but the layout and usability.
I've already written a mail to these guys.
Nothing against bert and kathy, the book is worth the money and it's what you need to pass it.
cheers
Bert Bates
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Andres -
We agree with you about learnkey! It's VERY frustrating for us , we have even offered to write a new test engine for them for free, and they haven't responded yet.
We are hoping to get text files of the two exams on the next version of the CD as a temporary measure.
We will let everyone know!
-Bert
Marlene Miller
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One very nice thing about Learnkey is their response to troubles. When I registered for the second exam, I guess I registered for the wrong course. Well it was the default and it said certificate. So twice I had to email the support team to help me solve my problem. They responded immediately and were very helpful and courteous.
 
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