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SCJP for experienced programmer

Toan Hoang

Joined: Apr 08, 2004
Posts: 2
Dear All,
I have been programming with java constantly for the passed 4 years as part of my university degree. I was wondering if there was a exam guide that doesn't neccessary go through all the basics, but is a good exam guide?
Richard Quist
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Joined: Feb 18, 2004
Posts: 96
For what it's worth...
I've been programming for the better part of 20 years...doing Java for the last 4+, and recently took the exam. I prepared for it by 1) using the "k&b" (Kathy Sierra, Bert Bates) book and 2) reading, and participating in the forums here on JavaRanch. The book really focuses on what you need to know for the exam and does an excellent job IMHO of explaining language features...and the exam questions in the book were right on the money.
Before I started to prepare I thought: "hey, I know the tough could it be? You only need 52% to pass..."
Then I started reading some posts here and got the sense that although I may be a solid Java programmer, I didn't "know" the language as well as I thought. The exam really tests your knowledge of the language...not how well you can program with it...
That's a long-winded way of saying "even though you feel you don't need the basics you might want to reconsider...
...and an even longer way of saying the "k&b" book is highly recommended - read it, question the examples, write some test classes, answer the quizzes, repeat as needed (93% on the test).
Hope this helps.
[ April 08, 2004: Message edited by: Richard Quist ]

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Kishore Dandu
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Joined: Jul 10, 2001
Posts: 1934
For experienced programmer, the learning curve for the certification may be lesser; but he/she needs to concentrate on basics(by way of attacking one of the widely used books maybe) or by practising the free mock tests.
If the score is of less importance, you may take the test sooner than later though.
At the same time, SCJP is stepping stone to appear for J2EE certs from Sun.

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Marcus Green
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Joined: Sep 14, 1999
Posts: 2813
Take a good mock exam, if you pass by a wide margin, just take the exam. However, as the other posts indicate, it is not trivial to pass even if you are experienced.

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