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vannia hdz

Joined: Jun 04, 2004
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Hi, looking around the sun site i noticed the different certifications for Java Programmers, Sun Certified Java programmer being the one to begin with.

My question is.. do you need to take the sun training to be able to take the certification test or can you take the test w/o the sun training?

Barry Andrews
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You can take the test without "Sun" training, but you must have "some" training. The test does require studying even if you are an experienced Java developer.
James Drinkard

Joined: May 30, 2002
Posts: 19
I have 3 years of Java programming and I'm studying for the SCJP test right now. The best book I've found is: "A Programmers Guide to Java Certification" by Khalid Mughal and I'm thinking about purchasing the Whizlabs software. It's worth it to pass the first time, so put it the study time and buy some cert. books at the very least. Even if you are an experienced java developer you could fail the test if you don't study for it. The test hits on things you don't use everyday and really gets down to the fine details of java.
Paul Santa Maria
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You must do a lot of reading and a lot of practice to successfully pass the test.

But, whatever else you do, get this book - it's truly the single best resource out there:

Sun Certified Programmer & Developer for Java 2 Study Guide
Kathy Sierra, Bert Bates

Paul M. Santa Maria, SCJP
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Dan Chisholm
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Originally posted by vannia hdz:

My question is.. do you need to take the sun training to be able to take the certification test or can you take the test w/o the sun training?



I don't know of anyone that passed the exam without studying. You will certainly have to study.

The JavaRanch has a page full of SCJP study guides. My book became available earlier this week, so you can only buy it from the retail web site of the company that prints it. If you would like more information on it, then please click on the link in my signature.

The K&B book is very popular. More experienced Java programmer like the Exam Cram book, because it is a little shorter.

The last step of your preparation should be to try the mock exams by Marcus Green at My exams are best used as a workbook earlier in the preparation process. The same is true of my book; it's really a workbook.

Dan Chisholm<br />SCJP 1.4<br /> <br /><a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Try my mock exam.</a>
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I learned Java primarily by studying for the exam using the study guide from Osborne. While I did pass, it was only by a few points. Though the score is not available to employers, they might ask. I have not found the Programmer certification useful. You probably will want to continue on with the Developer or Architect certification.
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