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JAVA 1.5; NOW WHAT?

 
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Hi,
now that the much talked about 1.5 is out, what's next for scjp.
kathy and berts do you have anything new for us and when should we expect it. i just cant wait to add SCJP 1.5 to my resume!
 
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We're pretty sure that there will be a Tiger SCJP exam in the Spring of 2005. As those dates firm up we'll announce them here...

In terms of us updating the SCJP book, I don't know... do you guys think we should?
 
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nah, you've updated it often enough already.
Now's the time to write a new one from scratch, you got a few months to do it so no real time pressure
 
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Originally posted by Bert Bates:
We're pretty sure that there will be a Tiger SCJP exam in the Spring of 2005. As those dates firm up we'll announce them here...

In terms of us updating the SCJP book, I don't know... do you guys think we should?



thanks bert, does that mean if there would be anything like SCJP1.5, we should expect it anytime from Spring of 2005?
in that case i would rather that u update the SCJP book rather than making a new one 'cos as the case as always been, it makes it easier to connect the past with the present.
 
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In fact I don't think Kathy and Bert should do a 1.5 book at all

(snicker chortle,mad staring eyes, and rubs hands and plans to dominate market in 1.5 texts )
 
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If the 1.5 is out next Spring, how long do we expect 1.4 to be discontinued? I think i need more than 3 months for 1.4. The more i study the more i don't know. Quite discoraging thus far
 
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We can tell you one thing for certain--the Tiger exam will be VERY different from the current exam in every way. The objectives are all different, 100% of the questions will be new, and the format of the questions will be different (more performance-based, less knowledge/memorization-based). We think it will be more difficult in some ways, and much harder to pass through *memorization*. You'll be expected to figure things out more. If you've seen the code magnets in our HF books, you can expect to see a lot of similar drag and drop questions like that, where you must *write* code by putting the pieces of code together. The exam engine still does not have the capability to actually let you type in your code, so this is the closest we can get--you drag pieces of code from a pool of valid and invalid code fragments, words, snippets, etc. until you've constructed the thing that does whatever is asked for. That's one example of how the exam is changing.

Should be fun!

Anyway, it's a looooong time from now before the actual exam is out; we are only JUST now beginning to work on the objectives. It takes a long time to go through all the various stages.

We reckon our book will have to be about 75% rewritten, and sorry Marcus--our publisher will hunt us down and kill us if we don't update it

But you must STILL know the Java language in order to pass, so even if you decide to wait until next spring (which I don't recommend), anything you are learning today will be valid and necessary (with perhaps a few tiny exceptions). The exam is *adding* a lot of new Tiger objectives, but not taking objectives away, so anything you study now is NOT likely to be dropped from the new exam! (although the weighting will change slightly. To make room for new questions on new Tiger stuff, you might have, say, fewer garbage collection questions).

cheers,
Kathy
 
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Hi Kay,

Don't be , be

If you have purchased the voucher, they cannot discontinue it till your voucher expires. Just see 1.2 exam, it's still there.

So if you have purchased the voucher, relax, if not then get one tomorrow.

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Will there be an upgrade exam in the same format?
 
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and what will happen to the 1.4 exam. Will that too change to the new format or will it remain in the current form?

I'm weighing my options here. I'm currently working (slowly, not much time) on exam prep for the 1.4, planning to take it sometime next winter.
But might it be sensible to postpone that a few months more until the 1.5 exam is available and use the interval to prepare for that?
 
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Should be fun!


Yeah. I love the new exam format, it makes sure that people really know the magic of Tiger to pass the exam, instead of *eating* the whole HF Tiger book.


Anyway, it's a looooong time from now before the actual exam is out; we are only JUST now beginning to work on the objectives. It takes a long time to go through all the various stages.


In such sense, does SCEA part I review in progress?? Or all resources are now shift to Tiger?


We reckon our book will have to be about 75% rewritten, and sorry Marcus--our publisher will hunt us down and kill us if we don't update it


When will HF Tiger come out?

Nick
 
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If you have purchased the voucher, they cannot discontinue it till your voucher expires. Just see 1.2 exam, it's still there.


This is not necessarily true, becos the voucher in fact does not indicate the exam code. You cannot find the number 310-035 on your voucher. Thus, even if you purchase the voucher, and *aims* for 310-035, if it is going to retired, it will retire on that specific day.

310-080 SCWCD 1.3 is an good example. It is going to retrie on 15 Dec 2004. I dont think the retirement day will be delay due to this reason.

SUN keeps 310-025 may simply becos 1.2 and 1.4 does not have a great different, and maybe still, there are still lots of systems developed using 1.2. They dont keep SCWCD 1.3 may simply becos even we are not currently using J2EE 1.4 to develop system, we make use of some features, like EL and JSTL, which are covered in SCWCD 1.4.

Nick
 
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But might it be sensible to postpone that a few months more until the 1.5 exam is available and use the interval to prepare for that?


My suggestion is, study Tiger now, and wait for SCJP Tiger Beta.

Nick
 
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:

My suggestion is, study Tiger now, and wait for SCJP Tiger Beta.

Nick



now if IBM would hurry up with their AIX Tiger JVM I'd have a case to go to work using it at work
 
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IBM is currently developing WSAD 6.0, which supports J2SE 1.4 and J2EE 1.4. I guess IBM will support J2SE Tiger in WSAD 6.1 or 6.2.

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Spring 2005



I'm going to assume that this was said by someone in the northern hemisphere and cross my fingers.

Remember that we are an international audience and that it's called the 'Equator', not the 'Edge of the World'!

 
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
IBM is currently developing WSAD 6.0, which supports J2SE 1.4 and J2EE 1.4. I guess IBM will support J2SE Tiger in WSAD 6.1 or 6.2.

Nick



small correction, not WSAD, but RAD (Rational Application Developer),
and that's true - since RAD 6.0 is based on Eclipse 3, it will support J2SE 1.4.

regards,
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Originally posted by Tony Morris:


I'm going to assume that this was said by someone in the northern hemisphere and cross my fingers.

Remember that we are an international audience and that it's called the 'Equator', not the 'Edge of the World'!



LOL !!!

 
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Hi Friends,
I thought of preparing SCJP 1.4 EXAM but now the new Tiger Java 1.5 released.
so whether I can prepare for 1.4 or Tiger.Is there any drastic change in the exam format.so kindly tell me whether i can wait for Tiger.Now im the intermediate in java working for the past 11 months.so please tell me what can i do ?
Thanks & Regards,
Prasath.
 
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
IBM is currently developing WSAD 6.0, which supports J2SE 1.4 and J2EE 1.4. I guess IBM will support J2SE Tiger in WSAD 6.1 or 6.2.

Nick



was talking the operating system, not the appserver though I think IBM is likely smart enough not to release a WSAD version requiring a JVM which they don't yet have available for their own main serverplatform.
 
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Originally posted by prasath thirumoorthy:
kindly tell me whether i can wait for Tiger...



I see no reason why anyone who has been reading all along for the 1.4 exam should ditch it for Tiger. My advice is go for it as soon as you are prepared 'cos to some extent a certified Java programmer is a certified Java programmer!
 
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I swear, I'm not antipode-phobic

I guess an "oops" is in order...

oops!
 
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I am waiting for SCJP 1.5.
i love new features added in Java Tiger.
 
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I thunk i agree with krishna but bert i have searched in all available dictionaries and still couldnt find out what [B]"antipode-phobic" [B]means?

 
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how the hell do we keep up with all these new releases?
 
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Jo -

I made it up! From the root word "antipode", the other side of the equator... So, I'm not afraid of things from the other side of the equator
 
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how the hell do we keep up with all these new releases?


In IT world, updates & bugs are unavoidable.

Just like in real world, death and tax are unavoidable.

Nick
 
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So, I'm not afraid of things from the other side of the equator


Yea~~H, Bert. I am very exciting for the coming of SCJP Tiger.

BTW, could you also tell me when SCJD Tiger and SCEA available?

Nick
 
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