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Feedback concerning Deitel Book to prepare SCJP 5.0 Beta

Vincent Brabant
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Has someone already read the last edition of Deitel book Java How to program ?
They said that their book was
Audited to the ACM/IEEE CS curricula guidelines, the CS AP exam and Sun�s Certified Java Programmer and Java Developer exams.


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Mike Gershman
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I'm half way through it. I bought it because it is a widely used textbook and I'm interested in teaching.

It goes too slow for an experienced programmer, but it has really good exercises. It's not as good as K&B or Mughal for SCJP, but it does cover Java 5. It has far fewer errors than most computer books.

Deitel has complete optional tracks in the early chapters for UML and for swing. It has a nice case study of the object-oriented design of an ATM.

If you took Computer Science in school, you'll recognize the professor-speak like "motivate" and the constant references to college in the examples and exercises. If you know very little programming, you'll appreciate the repetition, slow pace, and the excellent chapter reviews, useful, practical tips, and full-scale programming projects.

All-in-all, I think Deitel covers Java 5 well enough to prepare for SCJP 5, but it is a less efficient tool than a test prep book.


Mike Gershman
SCJP 1.4, SCWCD in process
Vincent Brabant
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Ok, but today it's the only book to learn all features of JDK 5.0.
The oreilly one in the Developer's notebook is not speaking about all topics of the exam. It seems that Deitel is approaching all topics of the exam.
That's what i would like to know.
I know it's a big book, but I will read only JDK 5.0 part (I already have a lot of books to prepare SCJP Exams concerning JDK 1.4) to be able to try the beta exam.

Just a stupid question, is the beta exam only available in english or beta exists in other language (like french, for example) ?
Nicholas Cheung
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Ok, but today it's the only book to learn all features of JDK 5.0.

This is NOT the only book to learn Tiger!!!

Cay has written Core Java 7th edition Vol 1 and 2, which cover all features of Tiger in detail. Find them out, you will find they are useful to prepare SCJP Tiger.


The oreilly one in the Developer's notebook is not speaking about all topics of the exam. It seems that Deitel is approaching all topics of the exam.

It might cover all features, but not target for the exam, and thus, you might, in addition to read the books, need to read JSRs.


Just a stupid question, is the beta exam only available in english or beta exists in other language (like french, for example) ?

Beta exams will only provide English version, other versions might come out after the exam is live.

Nick


SCJP 1.2, OCP 9i DBA, SCWCD 1.3, SCJP 1.4 (SAI), SCJD 1.4, SCWCD 1.4 (Beta), ICED (IBM 287, IBM 484, IBM 486), SCMAD 1.0 (Beta), SCBCD 1.3, ICSD (IBM 288), ICDBA (IBM 700, IBM 701), SCDJWS, ICSD (IBM 348), OCP 10g DBA (Beta), SCJP 5.0 (Beta), SCJA 1.0 (Beta), MCP(70-270), SCBCD 5.0 (Beta), SCJP 6.0, SCEA for JEE5 (in progress)
Mike Gershman
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There is also Just Java 2, 6th Edition, by Peter van der Linden, which covers Java 5.
Nicholas Cheung
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I have scanned the book before, it might be too breif for the beta as well. Seems that Core Java is the book that covers most of the objectives, if not the whole, in detail.

Nick
Vincent Brabant
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Thanks everyone
Pratap Rana
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Is any body knows the syllabus for SCJP 5.0?
Nicholas Cheung
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Is any body knows the syllabus for SCJP 5.0?

Why dont you do a search before asking?

http://www.coderanch.com/t/247279/java-programmer-SCJP/certification/Tiger-objectives

Nick
 
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