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Feedback: Info for SCJP Tiger beta

Nicholas Cheung
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One of my workmates has taken the exam this morning. I would like to share some of his experiences with you.

1. There were 166 questions.
2. He finished the exam in 4 hours.
3. There are around 20 questions in DND type, others are MC type.
4. The questions for each exam objective are evenly distributed, and thus, you basically need to study well in each objective.
5. He used the book Core Java 7th edition Vol I (chapter 3-6, 11-13) and II (chapters 1-2, 10-11, 13).
6. He also read the relevant JSRs.
7. Most of the questions are stright forward, around 40 questions are tricky.

Hope this help.


Nick

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[ January 17, 2005: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]

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Barry Gaunt
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Thanks Nicholas. Let's keep this thread for the beta feedback rather than the one I started a few days back.


Please be reminded that it is not allowed to post any of the questions from the SCJP 5 beta examination on this forum. This fourum is being monitored by some of the people who developed the exam questions.

It's OK to discuss the new format of the beta examination, its difficulty relative to SCJP 1.4, balance of 1.4 to 1.5 questions, and such things. Also you can give advice to others that they should read this or that API, section of JLS, published document, or book chapter.

It is very important that you do not violate your agreement with SUN on this forum, doing so could damage this site's reputation and indirectly affect other JavaRanch participants' (many non-registered lurkers) chances in their pursuit of the SCJP certification.

Thanks and Good Luck in SCJP 5 Beta.
-Barry
[ January 17, 2005: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]

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E Pease
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Joined: Mar 23, 2004
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Thanks Nicholas!
Congratulations to your co-worker.
What score did you co-worker recieve?
How long has she/he been programming?
Did he/she take the SCJP 1.4 exam?
Did she/he use the Core Java book just to understand the new Tiger objectives?
Are you using the same books to study?

Thanks in advance! Good luck on your test!


SCJP 1.5 Beta (in progress, nature willing)
Mark Spritzler
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Originally posted by E Pease:

What score did your co-worker receive?


Score won't be known for weeks after the end of the Beta.

Mark
[ January 18, 2005: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]

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Nicholas Cheung
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How long has she/he been programming?

3 years Java experiences


Did he/she take the SCJP 1.4 exam?

Yes, he also took SCJP 1.1 and SCJP 1.2 before.


Did she/he use the Core Java book just to understand the new Tiger objectives?

Yes.


Are you using the same books to study?

Might be, but I will first use Complete Reference as my core reference, because the Core Java books are *occupied* by other workmates.

Nick
Nicholas Cheung
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Can you tell me according to complete reference or tiger developer book that which chapter are more important for exam perspective .

I havent completed my 1st reading, and so, I will let you know the chapters I read next week.

As said before, the tiger developer book seems too simple, which I am afraid it might not be that useful for SCJP Tiger.

Dont worried, I will let you know more after I finished up my tasks this week.

Nick
Barry Gaunt
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Sorry to play the schoolteacher/policeman but I'm going to tidy up this thread of "chit chat". That's to keep it short and concise so readers don't have to wade through loads of fluff. Please keep to the topic.
Thanks.

[ January 19, 2005: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Richard Huang
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How many questions are from the existing 1.4 questions, and how many are for the new 1.5 features.

I just want to see how many effort I should take on the 1.4 study. Or can I just focus on the 1.5 new feaures?
Nicholas Cheung
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How many questions are from the existing 1.4 questions, and how many are for the new 1.5 features.

It is difficult to say, conceptally, the ratio for 1.4:1.5 is 6:4. However, some questions are a mix. For example, you might see questions using new features, say variable argument, however, it might not be compiled due to non-Tiger features, like accessing non-static variables in static method. So, how you regard such questions as 1.4. or 1.5?


I just want to see how many effort I should take on the 1.4 study. Or can I just focus on the 1.5 new feaures?

You need to know both. As the core Java concepts for 1.4 and 1.5 are quite similar, like data type, OO concepts, inner classes, etc, but then, you might also be asked about autoboxing, variable arguments, etc.

The learning processing is interesting, so, enjoy your study.

Nick
Richard Huang
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What is DND?
Amirthalingam Prasanna
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Drag And Drop


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ankur rathi
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Hi Nick & every body ,
Can you co-relate the level of exam with any mock test of 1.4 ... I know both are far different but like what level of difficulty ... ( if any available mock exam has same difficulty ... ) . I hope question is clear ...
thanks a lot .
bye .
E Pease
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Joined: Mar 23, 2004
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There was a link, to a mock test of 14 questions, in a previous thread. I can't find the link, but I can email you the file. I will post the link when I can find it.
Joyce Lee
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