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SCJP 5.0 Study Group

Sirisha Reddy
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Joined: Jun 09, 2003
Posts: 75
Folks,

time to update the certification. If there is anyone just started prep for tiger cert and interested in forming a study group - please respond. Let us have a target of study material everyday and finish this baby in 3/4 weeks time. I am following Heller n Roberts SYBEX book.

Thanks n best wishes,
Siri.


SCJP 1.4
latha yeduguri
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Joined: Jun 24, 2005
Posts: 17
I would like to join in this group. I am doing mock exams. referring books wheneer I need.
Devender Thareja
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Joined: Jul 14, 2005
Posts: 187
Hi there,
I am reading Head First Java, doing mock exams and hanging in this forum.


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shameena Hussain
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Joined: Jul 05, 2005
Posts: 14
ya, i would like to join this group... i m following K&B book
Bert Bates
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Joined: Oct 14, 2002
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Hi Guys -

The study group idea is great! Go for it!

I'm a bit embarrassed to say that I think that you'll need to find additional resources! None of the three books that you mentioned have complete coverage of the tiger exam (It's extra embarrassing because 2 of them are mine )

We're working to update the cert book for tiger but it's not done yet - i think there are other resources (like white papers and specs) that have been listed on this forum.

hth,

Bert


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Hamid Virani
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Joined: Jul 26, 2005
Posts: 41
I am interested in joining this study group too.

I was preparing for SCJP 1.4 exams, but now I feel I should directly give SCJP 1.5 exams.

Thanks,
Hamid
Ashok Kumar
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Joined: Aug 27, 2004
Posts: 93
I am interested to join this too.Please let me know if you come across any material on SCJP 5


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latha yeduguri
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Joined: Jun 24, 2005
Posts: 17
Making a group is a good Idea. I think we should make a plan how we are going to study & discuss the topics here. It seems we don't have enough material.
O Joseph
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Joined: Jun 27, 2003
Posts: 75
hi y'll. the study group idea is great but left to moi, i thunk i'd wait for k & B's new edition.

That not withstandin' count me in. Would be good to also give tiger a try.


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Mark Spritzler
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Joined: Feb 05, 2001
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The K & B New Edition is definitely worth the wait.

After reviewing the first 5 chapters so far, I can defintiely say that I have learned new things, and/or learned the things I know even better and fuller comprehension.

But, I am lucky enough to be a tech reviewer for the book and get to see the chapters in advance. But be patient, because it is not too far off.

Mark


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Rupak Khurana
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Joined: Mar 01, 2005
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I am too preparing for SCJP 5.0.

I have completed the first reading of Phil Heller book(for SCJP 5.0). I feel he has not done a good job in covering the new features in detail from Certification's perspective.

I am currently reading Java 2 v5.0 (Tiger) New Features by Herbert Schildt. I would highly recommend this book to get acquainted with new 5.0 features and for $16.49 on amazon.com is worth a buy. He explains the stuff nicely.

After that I plan to read the MZ notes and do some mock exams.

I feel I am forgetting old stuff as I soak in new ones

All of this till the updated K&B book is released.


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Devender Thareja
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Joined: Jul 14, 2005
Posts: 187
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
Hi Guys -

The study group idea is great! Go for it!

I'm a bit embarrassed to say that I think that you'll need to find additional resources! None of the three books that you mentioned have complete coverage of the tiger exam (It's extra embarrassing because 2 of them are mine )

We're working to update the cert book for tiger but it's not done yet - i think there are other resources (like white papers and specs) that have been listed on this forum.

hth,

Bert


Hi Bert,

I liked Head First Java very much. I am aware it's not written for SCJP exam but the way it evolve you understanding of Java concepts is very good. I also liked "Head First EJB", which I have read only introduction so far . I have decided to start this book, after doing the SCJP exam. Because of this I don't want to wait for too long.
Keeping this in mind, what would you advise? Which topics I should focus on , after reading the Head First Java.
When is K&B book due to come out? Is their any intro available on web for this book?
Bert Bates
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Hi Devender -

We think the book will be available in September - just a few chapters to go!

In the meantime, I can recommend Core Java 2 Fundamentals, Vol. 1 by Horstmann and Cornell, and Just Java 2 by Peter van der Linden. I think they both do a good job of covering Java in general and the new 5.0 stuff. They aren't study guides for the exam, though - so you have to study the Sun objectives carefully to decide which chapters and topics to focus on - plus, of course, they don't have any mocks...

We're getting very close, and we'll be posting some sample mocks in this forum soon!

hth,

Bert
Sirisha Reddy
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Joined: Jun 09, 2003
Posts: 75
Ok Folks,

I guess we have enough ppl on board for a grp.. we even have berts blessings.. i will update the thread with a calendar of reading tasks pretty soon and lets share views/Q&As/notes or anything that is useful in this mission.

Let us get it started and get it over.

-Siri.
Rupak Khurana
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Joined: Mar 01, 2005
Posts: 89
Thanks Sirisha for taking this initiative.....Lets keep the momentum.
Lalitha Gottumukkula
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Joined: May 24, 2005
Posts: 45
Hi,

I wanted to join this group. I had already appeared for this Tiger Exam, but couldnt clear the test. So, I think I need all you people's advice in preparing for the test this time. May be I would be of little help also, to this group as I had taken the most expensive MOCK TEST !!

Regards,
Lalitha.
Debashree Halder
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Joined: Jul 27, 2005
Posts: 81
Hi,

I'm also interested in joining this forum as I'm also planning for this exam.Can anyone tell me which one is the best book to follow for SCJP 5 exam?

Regards,
Debashree Halder


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sangeetha balasubramaniam
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Joined: May 16, 2005
Posts: 23
Hi,

I like to join your group. I am preparing for SCJP 1.4.
I am going thro Java 2 pgmmer & Developer by Kathy Sierra
Rupak Khurana
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Joined: Mar 01, 2005
Posts: 89
I feel this group should be catered to the needs of those aspiring to clear SCJP 5.0 and not SCJP 1.4 otherwise we will loose focus.
Ganesh Thangarajah
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Joined: Jul 27, 2005
Posts: 1
Hi,

I'm also interested in joining this forum. Could anyone tell me which one is the best book to follow for SCJP 5 exam?

Regards,
Ganesh Thangarajah
Sirisha Reddy
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Joined: Jun 09, 2003
Posts: 75
Hi guys,
The intention was to create the group for those who want to tame the TIGER not 1.4. Having said that, 1.4 ppl can surely benifit from it.

I will create a yahoogroups account for a common platform (for emails and progress chekin etc... ). But post all your questions in javaranch only.

FIRST FEW DAYS TASKS - Starting from today. (This should be a smooth sail for many of us)
DAY 1: Language fundamentals operators and assignments.
DAY 2: Modifiers, Convering and Casting
DAY 3: Flow control, assertions and exceptions.
DAY 4: OBJECTS and classes
DAY 5: Review time.

Siri.
sasikiran uvsr
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Joined: Mar 20, 2005
Posts: 10
the idea of grp study is fine.

could anyone post links on the board for the study material available on the net ??

that would be a great help to me

will Java Complete Reference - Tata Mc Graw Hill publications, fit the bill ???
Rupak Khurana
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Joined: Mar 01, 2005
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Lets be realistic with the schedule. A day for each topic....Uh ! There are working people with families too..
Lalitha Vydyula
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Joined: Jul 20, 2005
Posts: 69
Hi,
I would like to join this group, I'm preparing for SCJP1.4.
Mark Spritzler
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Why do you have to create a Yahoo Group, you can do all your posting here in this forum. that is what this forum is for, for everyone who is studying for the SCJP exam.

There is a SCJP Yahoo Grouop out there already too, if you wanted to join that group.

Mark
jothy ganesan
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Joined: Jul 13, 2005
Posts: 1
hi
i would like to join this group too..am preparing for tiger too... do tell me the mock exam sites
Alangudi Balaji Navaneethan
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Joined: Apr 28, 2004
Posts: 42
hi I too wish to join your group. Having covered complete reference on java 1.4, hope I can help you and myself through participating in the group.


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Ja vardhan
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Joined: May 09, 2005
Posts: 169
Folks,

I toooo wants to join this group and going to appear SCJP1.5 , Please list some valuble books for this... already some people posted their requests reg book names, but no one replied..

Please list out some valuble books for 1.5 preparation.


Javardhan:
bis ani
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Joined: Mar 09, 2005
Posts: 36
Hi All,

I would like to join this group as I am also trying to prepare for SCJP 5.0 exam.

regards,
Bis
Alangudi Balaji Navaneethan
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Joined: Apr 28, 2004
Posts: 42
hi all,

I think it would be nice if we include information regarding the objectives of the exam, preperation tips, books to read in our group discussion.

I also encourage to discuss the fine points of any one topic from the ground per day. So that every body can find tune thier knowledge.

What do you think?
Barry Gaunt
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Joined: Aug 03, 2002
Posts: 7729
Originally posted by Sirisha Reddy:
Hi guys,

FIRST FEW DAYS TASKS - Starting from today. (This should be a smooth sail for many of us)
DAY 1: Language fundamentals operators and assignments.
DAY 2: Modifiers, Convering and Casting
DAY 3: Flow control, assertions and exceptions.
DAY 4: OBJECTS and classes
DAY 5: Review time.

Siri.


So you are all on the second or third day by now. How's it going?


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srikanth reddy
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Joined: Jul 28, 2005
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hi frnds,

iam preparing for SCJP1.4..can anybody tell me what is this tiger exam???

thanks & regards

srikanth


Thanks & Regards<br /> <br />-Srikanth
Mark Spritzler
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Originally posted by srikanth dudyala:
hi frnds,

iam preparing for SCJP1.4..can anybody tell me what is this tiger exam???

thanks & regards

srikanth


tiger = SCJP 5.0 For Java JDK 5.0

There are some different objectives, including many new feature in Java 5.0.

Mark
Barry Gaunt
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Day 4: today: OBJECTS and Classes. Please post your questions in the normal SCJP Forum.

FIRST FEW DAYS TASKS - Starting from today. (This should be a smooth sail for many of us)
DAY 1: Language fundamentals operators and assignments. <- 27th July
DAY 2: Modifiers, Convering and Casting <- 28th July
DAY 3: Flow control, assertions and exceptions. <- 29th July
DAY 4: OBJECTS and classes <- 30th July (Saturday)
DAY 5: Review time.
Rupak Khurana
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Joined: Mar 01, 2005
Posts: 89
I guess its not working.. There have been yahoo groups formed for this in last couple of months and there have been no posts on that either. This one too sucks.. The schedule is also impractical.
Enrique Villamizar
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Joined: Jul 30, 2005
Posts: 93
Hi! I'm from Colombia and I'd like to participate in this study group. The only book I have is "Java 2 : Sun certified programmer & developer" by Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates. English is my foreign language.
Barry Gaunt
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Joined: Aug 03, 2002
Posts: 7729

:FIRST FEW DAYS TASKS - Starting from today. (This should be a smooth sail for many of us)
DAY 1: Language fundamentals operators and assignments. <- 27th July
DAY 2: Modifiers, Convering and Casting <- 28th July
DAY 3: Flow control, assertions and exceptions. <- 29th July
DAY 4: OBJECTS and classes <- 30th July (Saturday)
DAY 5: Review time. <- 31st July (Sunday)



Day 5: today: Review Time. Please post your SCJP questions in the normal SCJP Forum, and your comments and questions about your study group here. Rupak Khurana has made some very pertinent remarks just above this. I'll make mine later.
[ July 31, 2005: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Nilesh Raje
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Joined: Aug 02, 2005
Posts: 153
Hello Friends..!

Consider me too in the group..! I have read Khalid and Mughal,Complete Java 2 certifiation guide, the book by Kathy and the Exam cram too..! But kind off with all this stuff togather its difficult to aim all the questions at once..! I have been reading these books since last 6 months so but obvious i would be forgetting some fundas..! Want to be here so that i keep in touch with all latest stuff u guys come up with.Anyways I am looking to answer every possible question I can so that i gain confidence for exam..! once i am confident will appear ..! I have already taken the voucher..!

Cheers and Best of luck to every one..!


Thanks and Regards,<br />Nilesh<br />SCJP 1.4, SCWCD 1.4
Alangudi Balaji Navaneethan
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Joined: Apr 28, 2004
Posts: 42
hi,

after the review, we can group all of the questions discussed and the other intresting questions every one wants to share in a common place. It will be useful for the new comers as well as for us too, later for last minute preparation.
Radiya Sojitrawala
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Joined: Aug 06, 2005
Posts: 12
Hi,
I would like to join the study group. I ahve just started with teh K&B book on SCJP 1.4 and here.

Please add me to your list.

thank you
Radiya
 
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