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Reminder: Position on posting real questions and requests for braindumps

Barry Gaunt
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Please take note:

JavaRanch Position On Real Questions


As for braindumps - any requests for such links will be deleted without comments.

All braindump and real questions will be deleted
[ May 28, 2007: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]

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Barry Gaunt
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It looks as if another reminder is necessary...
Barry Gaunt
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And another...
Barry Gaunt
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And another reminder...
Barry Gaunt
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and another recent brain dump question causes another reminder.
[ February 01, 2007: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Barry Gaunt
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And another...
Karu Raj
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hi barry

I dont obey your orders

Do let me know why brain dump questions are deleted ?

Please let me know
[ February 01, 2007: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Karu Raj
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Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry


I do obey your orders

I typed by mistake

forgive me

sorry
Sasikanth Malladi
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Ah, Barry, how delightful!
Karthik, you should've let Barry call your bluff and not done it yourself. :roll:
Sashi
Barry Gaunt
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Reminder!
Barry Gaunt
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Another reminder is clearly required!
Barry Gaunt
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Reminder to someone currently posting a lot of questions from an unspecifed "mock exam"...
Barry Gaunt
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Recent posting of braindump question on garbage collection triggers this bumping.
Barry Gaunt
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Reminder!
Barry Gaunt
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Reminder!
Barry Gaunt
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It looks like another reminder is necessary. Braindump questions are appearing again.
Barry Gaunt
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It seems that a certain "John Matthew" has to be reminded not to post questions from a braindump.
william gates
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Get over yourself...
Your removing posts about brain dumps yet there are about a thousand new pointless posts advertising some lab spread all over the forum recently. Nothing seems to be said about that though... Must be another forum moderator trying push their businesses.
Henry Wong
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Originally posted by william gates:
Get over yourself...
Your removing posts about brain dumps yet there are about a thousand new pointless posts advertising some lab spread all over the forum recently. Nothing seems to be said about that though... Must be another forum moderator trying push their businesses.


That lab that you are refering to... I am assuming that it is in the Job forum? You do know that there is a promotion going on in that forum right? and you could actually win something?

I'll admit that a promotion generally gets tons of "nothing seems to be said" posts, but hey, this is what you get when the odds of winning is based on the number of posts... ... it should be over by the end of the week, but in the future, check the top of the main forum page for promotion announcements, so that you can stay away from them.


Anyway, braindumps are a violation of the Sun copyright. And it is also considered as cheating. Either of which is important enough for our attention. Or maybe you think that policing the policy on screen names is more important?

Henry
[ April 18, 2007: Message edited by: Henry Wong ]

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Barry Gaunt
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Originally posted by william gates:
Get over yourself...
Your removing posts about brain dumps yet there are about a thousand new pointless posts advertising some lab spread all over the forum recently. Nothing seems to be said about that though... Must be another forum moderator trying push their businesses.


Please keep to the topic of this forum and this thread. If you wish to comment about another forum (that I am not a moderator of) then please do it in that forum or in our JavaRanch forum which is for general concerns such as your own.
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"Do let me know why brain dump questions are deleted ?"

In the long run a web site that encourages, condones or even passively ignores brain dumps will cease to exist. Big corporations will use the law to have them shut down. Believe me they really will do this, the net is not anonymous. JavaRanch represents the finest, freeist, smartest and best help in your studies and it is very unwise to do anything that might endanger this resource.

Another factor is that I have been tracking this subject for ten years and often "brain dumps" are really just that, full of whatever rubbish was in the brain of a person who has a mind very addled with the pressure of doing a real exam. The topics, questions supposed answers are very frequently incorrect and misleading.


Marcus


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Barry Gaunt
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Bumped as yet another reminder!
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Yet again.

(Pandharinath Barve)
Barry Gaunt
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And again.
(Ravi Ahuja #138043)
Ravi Ahuja
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I am Sorry If i have done any mistake while asking any question
Anyways wont happen again ..
Sorry Barry and fellow ranchers


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Barry Gaunt
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The unfortunate thing is, is anyone going to believe your SCJP score is genuine when you use braindumps? Not now they won't.
Bert Bates
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You go Barry!

In addition, I've yet to hear anyone explain how using a braindump would help you once you got to a job interview?


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Next one:

(Rajeswari Kumar #145854)

Original post is in trash
[ May 31, 2007: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Rajeswari Kumar
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Sorry Barry. I don't know whether it is a brain dump or not. My friend forwarded me a set of questions. I got this question from there. Iam really sorry.
regards
Rajeswari
Barry Gaunt
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Yes, it's a pity that these braindumps are being distributed to unsuspecting SCJP candidates. Let's just hope your friend does not start posting the questions here.
Raghavan Muthu
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Hi Barry,

Its really nice to see your active contribution and the great job to keep the JavaRanch's pride and honour. Hats off.

Also it was a nice explanation given by Marcus Green. Well appreciable and agreeable.

Barry, if i m not mistaken, can i ask you a question? While going through the recent 2,3 posts, the fellow ranchers have posted the questions without their knowledge it seems. thats what i could infer.

How exactly we can find out whether its a real dump question or not? Because the person who is preparing for the exams and interested to give a solution, would definitely tend to work on it and post it if they need some clarifications on the question. Am i right?

Once again, many thanks and congrats for your continued support in the moderating activities.


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Barry Gaunt
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How exactly we can find out whether its a real dump question or not?


You can inquire about the real source of the questions you are given, and not take "don't know" as an answer. You can research into the issue of braindumps and do the right thing by avoiding them.

By the way my motivation is not to "keep the JavaRanch's pride and honour", as you put it.

The staff at JavaRanch wish to support and motivate those SCJP candidates that choose to study and work hard and pass the SCJP without resorting to the use of braindumps or otherwise getting access to the real exam questions.
[ May 31, 2007: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Raghavan Muthu
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That is fine.

Thanks Barry. I m not clear on your statement "You can research into the issue of braindumps ". Can you please tell how to do a research on it? so that it will be helpful for the people not to repeat the mistake.
Barry Gaunt
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Originally posted by Raghavan Muthu:
That is fine.

Thanks Barry. I m not clear on your statement "You can research into the issue of braindumps ". Can you please tell how to do a research on it? so that it will be helpful for the people not to repeat the mistake.


Are you really as naive as you seem? I'll just leave it to your own initiative.
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Ravi Ahuja
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I agree with what Raghavan said lots of free questions are available online how could we know the thing is a braindump ?
Anyways dont want to debate
Raghavan Muthu
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Hi Barry,

I was intended to say that not all researches would succeed. That too interms of real dumps we are not much experienced, as what and how you are.

Anyways, thanks for the suggestions. If at all, unknowingly we happen to fail somewhere in finding out the real dump question, you are there to let us know
Barry Gaunt
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And another:
Percy Dadabhoy #145991
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