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Amir khan
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It's like I couldn't register with my name and I didnt know what to do, so I just kept any random thing, this is my real name now.
can somebody help me now

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Amir khan
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i m thinkin of giving SCJP exam, can sumbody tell me wat things should i b careful abt?
i already know java quite well through "The Complete Reference--Herbert Schildt" and have it.
I am also thinkin of buyin Mughals book.will i need another books?
I also have whizlabs SCJP 1.4, another simulator i guess i will get frm mughals book. Do i need anything else?
I have also alloted 1 complete month for preparation of this exam. Will this b enough?

any small bit of help is highly appreciated.
thank-u.
Sherry Jacob
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Originally posted by Amir khan:
i m thinkin of giving SCJP exam, can sumbody tell me wat things should i b careful abt?
i already know java quite well through "The Complete Reference--Herbert Schildt" and have it.
I am also thinkin of buyin Mughals book.will i need another books?
I also have whizlabs SCJP 1.4, another simulator i guess i will get frm mughals book. Do i need anything else?
I have also alloted 1 complete month for preparation of this exam. Will this b enough?

any small bit of help is highly appreciated.
thank-u.


Hello Amir Khan,
Preparing for Java in 1 month ?? I wish I could do it !! I have 1.5 years of work-ex on Java and still I've taken nearly 2 months thus far !!

The book you referred for Java so far,(Complete Reference) is the most kiddish of books available. I read it nearly 5-6 times and still feel I know only 10% of Java.

Try reading a few pages of Khalid Mughal. You'll know what Java actually means.

As for the exam simulators, Whizlabs simulators are good but you'll need more than that to practice. Try Googling.

All the best !!
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<strong><br />Cheers !!<br /> <br />Sherry<br /></strong><br />[SCJP 1.4]
Amir khan
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I'm gonna buy mughal tomorrow and will give my exam in a month.

Thanks for your help.


AMIR KHAN
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David Ulicny
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Try to go through this mock exam, they are really good.

http://www.danchisholm.net/


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Sandhya Lever
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You can read K&B book also.


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Ginu Jacob
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K&B book is a must read..try it out also
Marcus Green
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1 month is a very, very tight schedule. Make sure you fully understand threading and the implications of its platform independence and the indeterminate nature of some code.


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Amir khan
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After much delibration, i have finally decided to prepare myself for SCJP.
I hope to do it 1 month, lets see how it goes.
THANKS to everybody for their suggestions.
Please keep them coming.
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Mat Williams
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Hi Amir,

Preparing for the exam in under a month is possible. I did it. I guess it depends on just how well you know Java. I had been coding in Java for about 5 + years before I did the exam. I got K&B's book (Sun Certified Programmer & Developer for Java 2 Study Guide), and did the prcatice exams, this showed up several areas that I didn't know so well, threading for example. I studied these areas (2 or 3) over a couple of weeks and then did the exam.

You will get a good idea of whether you are ready based on how well you do in the practice exams.

Good luck.

Mat
Patrick van Zandbeek
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Well, good luck, may your path to SCJP also lead to modesty.
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u is a letter, not a word.
Patrick van Zandbeek
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Personally I read in the quote a warning that the book was for beginners and that studying it doesn't give you 100 percent Java knowledge but much extra study was needed.

But I agree, if someone only takes 4 days to learn everything about Java and then only needs a couple of hours to pass the exam, great...
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Amir khan
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hi Patrick,
I hope my this post clears all your doubts, firstly I had a problem registering for this site, because I didn't read the naming policy.
I am frm India and so is sherry, and so is a big bollywood actor named AMIR KHAN, thats why I don't usually use my real name, and that post was certianly done to pull my leg..
right now ,i am doing nothing , no job,nothing, so i can put in lots of hours.
thanx dibbo and patrick.
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Mohamed Shafi
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Hi Amir,

Just went through the posting to ur thread and i couldn't help giving my comments about it. I like ur attitude and i hope u clear SCJP in about a month. But it's all about acquiring knowlege, and in java it takes at least a year or more.


My suggestion would be to take it slow and there is nothing wrong in taking time to learn something...

On the exam point of view, try to take maximum no: of mocks and give imp to Threads,Collections and inner classes.

lastly, all the best for ur exam.


Regards,<br /> <br />Shafi.
shashikanth penumadula
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hi amir,
my intention is not like stopping you, you can really take the exam in a month, but once you get into it you may feel like you need more practising. also scjp1.5 has released and you can go for it instead of scjp1.4. its your wish anyway.
once you got your basics right, and you go through a book like Kathy sierra and bert bates or khalid mughal's then you can make it easily. what i would suggest is , take plenty of mocks for practice.
anyway,if you need any other stuff related to java you can ask me. i'll try to help you out.

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Mark Spritzler
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My apologies up front for editing many posts in this thread.

We do want to keep everyone nice, and I found some of the posts here not adhering to that policy.

There is always room for interpretations of people's intention of nice or not, so with my powers given to me I will tone down this thread to my interpretation.

Mark


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Mark Spritzler
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Amir, I wanted to thank you for trying to get this thread back to the real question and to try to keep the peace with your posts.

Shashikanth, yours got edited just to change all the u and ur to you and your. Since I was editing all those other posts and changing their short speek, which we want to avoid here at JavaRanch. I had to do the same to yours. Sorry.

Thanks guys.

Mark
Amir khan
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also scjp1.5 has released and you can go for it instead of scjp1.4. its your wish anyway.

firstly, thank-you shashikant for bringing that to my notice.So can somebody please post the difference between 1.4 and 1.5 . Also since , i could not find K & B ,i just have khalid's book ,so please tell me ,wat else do i need to cover 1.5.
Mark Spritzler
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In the 5.0 exam (same as 1.5, but Sun wants to call JDK 1.5 to 5.0 same as with exam. )

They added some new features of the JDK 5.0 release, including..

1) Generics
2) Enums
3) For Each Loop
4) Auto-boxing and Unboxing
5) Var-args
6) More OO principle stuff

There are no more bit shifting questions in 5.0

I think there is one or two I forgot.

Mark
Joshua Smith
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This thread might be useful as well in determining the differences between the 1.4 and the 5 exam.

What is NOT included in SCJP 1.5?

Josh


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shashikanth penumadula
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hi amir
joshua and mark are saying it right. u can see the topics removed from that link. kathy sierra and bert bates or khalid mughal's books for 1.5 havent been released yet. even i am preparng for 1.5, i am waiting for that books only.
Steve Morrow
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i m thinkin of giving SCJP exam, can sumbody tell me wat things should i b careful abt?

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Amir khan
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Thank-you for bringing that to notice Steve,may be, Mark missed that.
I seriuosly think, people here, should talk just talk about the topic. I hope even this is written somewhere here, cause i am new to this place.
chinni Reddy
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Joined: Aug 16, 2005
Posts: 11
Hi,

I am planning to take the exam on the 10th of this month , I have already scheduled the time with the prometric center.I am preparing hard for the exam.


I am preparing from the Kathy sierra book and it is very nice , it has the quizes along with the answers and explanation.

"Just be confident and work hard" these are the words I hear from the people who took the exam recently.
Amir khan
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Joined: Aug 15, 2005
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I am planning to take the exam on the 10th of this month , I have already scheduled the time with the prometric center.I am preparing hard for the exam.


BEST OF LUCK , hope you clear SCJP with 100% marks.
GowriShankar Ramanathan
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hi i hv jus registered at this site there is really great interaction. I too planning to write SCJP1.5 maybe sometime in November. Can anybody tell me if its necessary to have real time experience to write SCJP1.5?
Marcus Green
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That is probably a topic for a new thread. The short answer is no, you just need to know the topics specified for the exam, and you need to know them well. Most people find the best way to learn is to write many many short programs (and then to compile them). I get a constant stream of feedback on my own site where people say "The code in question 78 (or whatever) won't compile". When I respond asking what error message they got, it turns out they haven't actually compiled it at all, they are just guessing. So my point is that javac is your friend and helper, compile compile compile. Good luck.
 
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