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A question...to M. Bert Bates :-)

Arno Reper
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Hi,
Because i like so much studying lol , i read about the scja...do you think its interresting for an IT-student to get both scjp(i just got it... ) and scja?
I have UML lessons at school...
which book should i buy? did you write one? i read about head first object? but he isn't yet published?
thx for your aswers
arno


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Bert Bates
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Hey Arno,

Hi,
Because i like so much studying lol , i read about the scja...do you think its interresting for an IT-student to get both scjp(i just got it... ) and scja?
I have UML lessons at school...
which book should i buy? did you write one? i read about head first object? but he isn't yet published?
thx for your aswers
arno


I think the SCJA is primarily for people who aren't planning to be SCJPs. It was intended for people who will be working with Java programmers and on Java projects, but it's not really intended for people who want to be professional programmers.

If you do decide to go for the SCJA, there's no book that I know of that is meant specifically for that exam. I think that Dave Wood provided a UML overview somewhere on the SCJA forum. My thought is that if you're already an SCJP, and you study for a short time about the basic capabilities of J2EE and J2ME, and you study Dave's UML guide, you'll do great on the SCJA.

Head First Objects is almost done - we're just doing some edits and polishing, but it isn't meant to be a guide for the SCJA. (It might be good for the SCJD and the SCEA but it's not really a certification book at all.)

hth,

Bert


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Arno Reper
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thanks for your answer, do you maybe know some good stuff about J2ME and J2EE?
ps: Dave Wood 's doc is it a 11pg PDF? Im reading UML2.0 and the design patterns from Craig Larman for school is it ok?
arno
Arno Reper
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hi,
i like the way dave wood wrote about UML nice...i think i'm gonna try the scja, its always a certif i can show when i would have to find a job...
gtz,
arno
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Deepak Bala
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hmm... i believe SCJA is targeted at managers rather than software engineers. If you passed SCJP why take SCJA ? Go for the certifications that are at the second level , like business component developer , web component developer , mobile application developer etc.


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Arno Reper
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hi,
don't you think its beter that i got a breeder qualifications spectrum? I don't feel ready for SCJD...what do you think?
thx for your comments
arno
Don Lippert
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If I have no certifications yet, I should not waste my time on this one?
 
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