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Vote here: I'm studying for the SCJP 1.5 exam

Bert Bates

Joined: Oct 14, 2002
Posts: 8898
Hi SCJPers!

Just for fun, let's find out how many people are studying for the SCJP 1.4 exam versus the SCJP 1.5 exam. If you're studying for the SCJP 1.5 exam, add a post here, and maybe tell us how you made your decision.



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Amit Batra
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Joined: Mar 04, 2006
Posts: 361
1.5 sir. Because Im forward thinking and like to keep pace with the pack
Deepak Bala

Joined: Feb 24, 2006
Posts: 6662

hmm... i dont know if i am eligible to vote. I already took the 1.5 exam. I took it because i wanted a challenge. There are just too many mocks that simulate the 1.4 exam very well and people around me made a mockery of it sometimes, by learning for it for a month and scoring more than 85% !!! I would like the exams to be a bit tougher. SCJP 5 is tougher in the relative sense but the level of difficulty needs to be stepped up a touch. The topics covered need to be broader.

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marc weber

Joined: Aug 31, 2004
Posts: 11343

I'm already certified under 1.4, so I plan to take the 1.5 upgrade exam (probably after the SCWCD exam though).

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Divvi kanuparthi

Joined: Mar 09, 2006
Posts: 6
I am studying for 1.5.b'cos i hope it helps me in getting a job.
Kevin Crays
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Joined: Apr 26, 2006
Posts: 41
I'm studying for the 1.5 exam, because it's the latest version of the language. Until I came here, I had no idea that one test was easier than the other, but I don't think that really matters. I have to study no matter what. I haven't programmed in java in several years, so I'm behind the curve on 1.4 too. And I assume that shops will use 1.5 features if they're available and know about them.

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Leonardo Luiz
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Joined: Mar 24, 2006
Posts: 51
I'm studing for SCJP 1.5. Why?

It's new (ok, it's not so new).
It's cool (Generics,Autoboxing,Enums,etc).
It's Java EE 5 JDK.

Leonardo Luiz
sab son

Joined: Apr 26, 2006
Posts: 28
Hi Bert,

I am a Windows Mobile developer and I am preparing for SCJP 1.5 from your book after a going thru a mental torture of selecting between two exams ( 1.4 or 1.5). I opted for 1.5 as it is the latest version.

Sandeep Singh Kunwar
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 52
Was waiting for K & B book since 3 months, only for 1.5 ofcourse.

Reasons are simple:
1) Its Latest
2) When they called it Java5 that means their must be something great and they will go with it.
3) Will Look impressive on my resume and differentiate me in a Job queue
4) So many good features to make a programmers life easier
5) More tougher, broader than scjp1.4 and ofourse i don't have to study those ancient bit operations atleast

what else;

OfCourse Learner...<br />SCJP 5, SCWCD1.4<br />Blogs: <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>
Tim Shortt

Joined: Jan 26, 2006
Posts: 2
Studying for 1.5.

Reason: by the time I become certified AND get more real world experience, I think 1.5 will be much more commonly in use than 1.4** (which isn't to say there won't be tons on <=1.4 code around waiting for maintenance).

**but I'm new, so what do I know
Joval J�nior

Joined: Dec 02, 2005
Posts: 1
I'm studing for SCJP 1.5 sr. Bert.

Joval J�nior
BCD - Bier Certified Drinker
Dick Eimers
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Joined: Apr 15, 2006
Posts: 40
Studying for SCJP 1.5, just because newer is better

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Manuel Comnenus
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Joined: Apr 26, 2006
Posts: 86
I am preparing for the SCJP 5 exam. I think it is better to be prepare for what is state-of-the art. In addition, I am not very excited by shift operations and didn't want to chafe at the bits. It is possible that the Java 5 exam, which relies less on memorization, will also be viewed by a greater number of people as a reliable measure of subject mastery. I also have the feeling that the exam content is increasingly more appropriate. This goes back a little while, but I think it was ridiculous for the 1.2 exam to test for AWT when the direction was clearly to Swing. Similarly, were bit operations as late as SCJP 1.4 really all that appropriate.

By the way, your book is good - perhaps the only worthwhile SCJP 5 book that is available. An interesting question is ... how many people might have already taken the SCJP 5 exam if the book was available 3-4 months sooner.

Melle Lee

Joined: Nov 17, 2005
Posts: 12
I am going for SCJP 5.0 because it's the newest version and seems interesting. But I don't know whether Java 1.4 is more widely used.
Asha Pathik
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Joined: Feb 08, 2006
Posts: 143
Accidently bought the 1.5 exam voucher but now I think its good in a sense that I'm learning some more gr8 features of this wonderful language.


SCJP 1.5
Ravinder Singh
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Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 54

I'm studying for SCJP 1.5 (as opposed to 1.4) because of the following reasons:

1. To learn new language features and get certified with the latest in J2SE.
2. Adds more weightage to your CV compared with 1.4 under present context.
3. Have more fun!

Marino Christe

Joined: Apr 15, 2006
Posts: 17
gonna take scjp 5 in may.
bcoz its d latest version. want 2 keep pace wid technology growth.
also i thought it wil help me get a better job..
Amar kon

Joined: Mar 30, 2006
Posts: 10
i am studying for scjp 1.5 because it is the latest.
RudraNarayan Garnaik

Joined: Apr 29, 2006
Posts: 4
Oviously SCJP5....
no need to compare is a clear picture.....

Thanx<br />Rudra Narayan Garnaik<br />Application Engineer
Alan Hermin
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Joined: Feb 16, 2006
Posts: 290
Hi .....
i and 5 my friends go to take it...
I am preparing for SCJP5.0 ,,why?
because it is the latest version,,,
because i want a challenge,,,,
Then, it conatain useful objectives in its topics,,,,,

Soon I Will Go To Take IT
mithun chakravarthy

Joined: Apr 28, 2006
Posts: 19
Hi!! BB!!
this is really good survye to do!!
i feel!! this is a real challenge to all those guys , who r taking scjp5!!
including me.... yes i m getting it on 6th may..
so guys ! wish me good luck..N also give me some good MOck Exam Sites..

Take care ...
all the best!!!

The authentic Java Programmer..
Devi Sri
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Joined: Dec 20, 2005
Posts: 114


I am preparing for SCJP 1.5 exam.

Since it covers the new advanced concepts, i want to take up this challenging exam. And want to pass out with a good score.

Branko Santo
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Joined: Oct 15, 2005
Posts: 72
1.5 study going on here

Why? I could not live without generics and autoboxing (varargs and enums I can live without but nice features none the less)

Cheers and good luck to everybody!
Bala Muthukumarasamy

Joined: Oct 24, 2005
Posts: 2
I am studying for 1.5 bcos, it is the latest version as of now...
Edisandro Bessa
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Joined: Jan 19, 2006
Posts: 584
Originally posted by Joval J�nior:
I'm studing for SCJP 1.5 sr. Bert.

Joval J�nior
BCD - Bier Certified Drinker

(Edited by Mark Spritzler, so we don't hijack this thread. thanks Mark)
[ April 30, 2006: Message edited by: Mark Spritzler ]

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Ashley Bideau
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Joined: Apr 22, 2006
Posts: 40
I'm studing for SCJP 1.5. Why?

Because 1.4 is for kids

Pavel Kubal
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Joined: Mar 13, 2004
Posts: 360
I'm preparing for 5.0. Why? Because I want to learn features brought by tiger and certification process forces me to learn it properly ;-)

Second reason is that 5.0 is harder to pass than 1.4 and that's good challenge, isnt it?:-)
Sumit Badheka

Joined: Sep 20, 2005
Posts: 14
i am preparing for SCJP 1.5
i came to the decision for giving 1.5 against 1.4 is very simple - opting for the latest technology also i read many posts which tell that its better to opt for 1.5 (since it is the latest) also as a fresher engineer in IT , i am searching for a better job.

On the other hand , i have read some posts telling that 1.5 is tougher than 1.4 (which some times scares me a lot) but "the more difficult tasks gives more opportunities "

so i have kept my cool and consistently studying for the exam ,(i am a slow learner), for the last 3 months
thanks for creating this forum(esp this thread), i never feel that i am studying alone.
all the best to fellow ranchers who are preparing for the exam
Jegon Jeganathan Renganathan

Joined: Apr 21, 2006
Posts: 6
Hi Bert!

I am preparing for SCJP 5.0 Tiger edition. As everyone in the loop is mentioning about the toughness of the exam very few have actually discussed about the advantage of having the latest certificate. This not only hones you to the "Tiger" edition of Sun but also gives us the pleasure to learn the advancement in the SUN World. Hope to get the better grades in the Exam. And your valid suggestions to prepare for the exam will be grateful to all of us!!!

When Going gets Tougher, the Tough gets Going
Jack malvin

Joined: Nov 23, 2005
Posts: 15
Hey Bret,
Me too preparing for SCJP 5.
1.4 ain't that fun. ...LOL
Oscar Gonzalez
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Joined: Mar 28, 2006
Posts: 63
I'm studying for the 5.0 exam, because is the latest and it would be the most common used version in the next years.

However there are not a lot of mock exams for this version yet.

Shaliey Gowtham
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Joined: Mar 20, 2006
Posts: 104
Perparing for the SCJP 1.5.
I wanted to go for the latest one available.
Shrik Josh

Joined: Apr 19, 2006
Posts: 4
Now a days Software Industry will slowly moving towards
Java 1.5. In my project also we are working in Java 1.5
Lot of new things are added in Java 1.5.
I will go for Java 1.5 Certification.
Nilesh Shekokar

Joined: May 02, 2006
Posts: 17
i am also preparing for scjp5

SCJP 5<br />SCWCD 1.4
Sandeep Vaid
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 392
I am studying for SCJP 1.5 as i feel that one should always go for the latest thing available as it will be of more value....
saikrishna cinux
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Joined: Apr 16, 2005
Posts: 689
I am preparing for SCJP1.5 because there is a lot of difference between 2 versions, which sun had never introduce b4... and also after 1.5 (i.e in the latest version 1.6),

SCJP 1.4
paul scaman

Joined: Apr 26, 2004
Posts: 1
I'm taking the programmer's exam for fun. I'm not a professional programmer and since I have no experience of the latest version I'm taking 1.4.
Jinto Lonappan

Joined: Mar 13, 2006
Posts: 20
Originally posted by Ashley Bideau:
I'm studing for SCJP 1.5. Why?

Because 1.4 is for kids


Will go for Tiger(SCJP 5).....
Any thing below TIGER is not that challenging....

Anyone can score 100 in 1.4 if you prepare well and have a strong practical experience (and a little bit of luck, ofcourse.... )

But its not that easy to score high, when playing with Tiger.....

Its always better to defeat a Tiger than killing a Sheep.
Rajesh MadhanGopal
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Joined: Jan 19, 2006
Posts: 70
Hi Bert
i am going for Java 5 , looks to be the most challenging of wats available.

Thanks<br />Rajesh
Paras Jain
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Joined: Feb 26, 2005
Posts: 138
I am also preparing for SCJP 1.5 because
1) I wanted to learn the new topics added in Java 1.5. Certification is the best way to learn and test that knowledge.
2) Sooner or later Java 1.5 is going to replace 1.4 in the market. Having certification in 1.5 will be beneficial in that case.

Paras Jain
SCJP 5.0
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