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Brad Malia
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Joined: Aug 29, 2001
Posts: 4
I have just graduated this May with a IS degree and I have discovered something that I'm calling the 2 year wall and I wanted to share this with everyone. Entry Level java jobs are no longer actually entry level anymore. The competition is so tight right now for jobs, that people who have 2+ years experience in programming are setteling for entry level job positions. So, unless you have that 2 years experience, then you better have some good networking, otherwise you might as well start flipping burgers. A 4 year degree doesn't seem to amount for squat in the IT industry anymore. Last year, companies may have had 6 or 7 applicants for entry level positions where as now, they get around 30-40 which makes the competition really stiff without someone on the inside pushing your name in.
If you're an experienced programmer, keep your job! Don't quit thinking you can easily find another job, because things have changed.
If you're an inexperienced programme, keep trying! I'm in the same boat, and I know it really hurts when you know you're plenty qualified for a position and did really well in the interview but hear this "we went with someone who had 3 years experience". I've been through 8 interviews since I graduated. This is crazy. Remember the good ol days (last december) when everyone was getting multiple offers and could pick and choose? Well.. now we're going to have to jump at the first offer we get!
Is there anybody out there who will actually hire entry level people and tell the experienced people that they are too over qualified? If so, there is a very talented Java programmer right here who has a lot of potential and is waiting for your reply.
Cheers,
Brad Malia
ersin eser
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Joined: Feb 22, 2001
Posts: 1072
well just don't give up.
I have a technical school degree in IT field + college degree from unrelated field . I got a job at my very first interview and it is Java related . And the company is kind enough to send me ( entry level ) to J2ME training
Just don't wait, go for it.
Brad Malia
Greenhorn

Joined: Aug 29, 2001
Posts: 4
When did all this take place? "The Wall" went up about 6 months ago.
What do you mean "go for it"? I've done applied to hundreds of jobs.
Originally posted by ersin eser:
well just don't give up.
I have a technical school degree in IT field + college degree from unrelated field . I got a job at my very first interview and it is Java related . And the company is kind enough to send me ( entry level ) to J2ME training
Just don't wait, go for it.

Bill Compton
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Joined: Aug 26, 2000
Posts: 186
This is an excellent topic for (and belongs in) the Jobs Discussion forum. I'll move the topic there.
On this subject, the "foot in the door" problem can be quite challenging. Networking (a friend on the inside) has always been a helpful strategy. Another is gaining experience in unpaid avenues. This is not always as good as paid experience (and, in the meantime, you have to buy the groceries!) but working on volunteer projects, (source forge has some ambitious projects) and research / self-training projects, especially toward applications/applets you can donate to the public domain (see jars.com) help, too. Finally, persistence is key.
 
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