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I Am a Winner of a JavaRanch PromotionJSF Book, But, Never Received It.

JiaPei Jen
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Dear Moderator, I am a winner of a JavaRanch Promotion book entitled "JavaServer Faces in Action" by Kito D. Mann (see http://www.javaranch.com/pastwinners2004.jsp) on August 31, 2004. Nobody has ever contacted me about the shipping of the book, and, of course, the book has never arrived. May I know what happened to that book? Thank you for looking into the matter.
Varun Khanna
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Probably you should raise your query in Javaranch forum.

This forum is for discussion over JSF.


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Gregg Bolinger
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I will move this to the Javaranch forum.


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Ilja Preuss
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Did you send us your snail mail address when you were announced as a winner?


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Kishore Dandu
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As you can see 3 threads down, I won 2 books last year. Never received both. Some other folks in the ranch are also in the same boat.

In the same vein, it was helpful to see the authors participate in the forums. That is a positive out of the book promotions(irrespective of if you get the book or not at the end of being a winner)


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Ilja Preuss
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:
As you can see 3 threads down, I won 2 books last year. Never received both. Some other folks in the ranch are also in the same boat.


Well, even sheriffs aren't immune to it...
JiaPei Jen
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"Where" do I give you the snail mail address in order to receive the book? Am I going to receive the book?
Ilja Preuss
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Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:
"Where" do I give you the snail mail address in order to receive the book? Am I going to receive the book?


According to http://www.javaranch.com/bookpromo.jsp "Winners must send their snail mail address and day time phone number to bookpromotion AT javaranch DOT com."

It probably also has been mentioned in the "The winners" thread of the promotion.
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Ilja Preuss:
Did you send us your snail mail address when you were announced as a winner?


I second Ilja's question here, JiaPei... If you didn't send your snail mail address to Mr.Dirk, it's likely that you won't receive the book, cos no one knows where to send the book to... But in my case, I did send my snail mail address to Mr.Dirk, but I do believe that Mr.Dirk forwarded that to the publisher and I think that the problem is with the publisher, especially Manning...


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Jeroen Wenting
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Don't rule out that marvellous institution we call mail!

If a letter from Amsterdam to Antwerp can take a month, why shouldn't a book from the US to India take a year

I've won several times, all but one book arrived in weeks (including one from Manning). The only one that was delayed was an APress book which had to come from Germany (their European distributor is there) which probably caused the delay.


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Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
Don't rule out that marvellous institution we call mail!

If a letter from Amsterdam to Antwerp can take a month, why shouldn't a book from the US to India take a year

I've won several times, all but one book arrived in weeks (including one from Manning). The only one that was delayed was an APress book which had to come from Germany (their European distributor is there) which probably caused the delay.


It takes a week or two different from what it takes for mail to go from Amsterdam to Antwerp. Mine gets to India in less than 3 weeks in regular mail from US.

Jeroen: I guess you have something negative about India, and you always bring it into unrelated topics to make some kind of comment.
Jay Ashar
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Originally posted by Kishore Dandu:


Jeroen: I guess you have something negative about India, and you always bring it into unrelated topics to make some kind of comment.


Well, he has been warned by owner of this site.
http://www.coderanch.com/forums/

I think either he is catching up with those threads or he does not care about this site.


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Jason Menard
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If something takes one month to reach a destination within the same country, then to me the sarcasm is quite clear about how something might take a year when much greater distances are involved. Attempting to turn that comment into a slight against India, in my opinion, seems a bit of a reach. I would like to take this opportunity to remind people of the be nice rule.
Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
If something takes one month to reach a destination within the same country, then to me the sarcasm is quite clear about how something might take a year when much greater distances are involved. Attempting to turn that comment into a slight against India, in my opinion, seems a bit of a reach. I would like to take this opportunity to remind people of the be nice rule.


It all depends on perception. What I feel as out of the norm, may seem perfectly ok with you.

I was trying to be nice, that is why I haven't gone using some harsh sentences, but explained the reality with mailing to India.
Dirk Schreckmann
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JiaPei Jen,

I'm sorry you haven't received the book, yet. I'm fairly certain that it has been mailed to you. I'll ask the publisher to confirm this.

Kishore,

Ditto.

I'll also ask if the publishers could maybe provide you guys with electronic copies, especially considering the possible loss of the books through the mail systems.

-Dirk
JiaPei Jen
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Hi Dirk, I doubt that the book has ever shipped to me because I did not provide my snail mail address and contact telephone to you right after the winners of the book were picked in August 2004.

I did send you a private e-mail "yesterday" and provided my snail mail address and day time telephone number.
Peter Sin
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Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:
Hi Dirk, I doubt that the book has ever shipped to me because I did not provide my snail mail address and contact telephone to you right after the winners of the book were picked in August 2004.

I did send you a private e-mail "yesterday" and provided my snail mail address and day time telephone number.




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Darrin Smith
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Err..umm, while you are at it...could you check on mine as well?

I won a Pro Spring book a while back. Haven't heard anything more even though I did send in my information.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Dirk Schreckmann:
JiaPei Jen,

I'm sorry you haven't received the book, yet. I'm fairly certain that it has been mailed to you. I'll ask the publisher to confirm this.

Kishore,

Ditto.

I'll also ask if the publishers could maybe provide you guys with electronic copies, especially considering the possible loss of the books through the mail systems.

-Dirk
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by JiaPei Jen:
Hi Dirk, I doubt that the book has ever shipped to me because I did not provide my snail mail address and contact telephone to you right after the winners of the book were picked in August 2004.

I did send you a private e-mail "yesterday" and provided my snail mail address and day time telephone number.


I think the main problem is with the publisher. I received all books from any other publishers, except from Manning. If anyone ever received any book won from Manning thru book promotion, please give us some comment here. Thank you.
Jeroen Wenting
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I've won and received a single book from Manning. In fact they were faster than some others (especially APress).
David O'Meara
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Yes, I'm not sure a single person not receiving a single book is statistically significant. You may like to rememmber we rely on the support of the publishers to provide the Book Promotions and book give-aways at all...
miguel lisboa
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due to javaranch's disk crash i'm re posting:

just to say i received my won Agile Java book yesterday

i think it was pretty fast


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Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:


I think the main problem is with the publisher. I received all books from any other publishers, except from Manning. If anyone ever received any book won from Manning thru book promotion, please give us some comment here. Thank you.


I had no problem with Manning. Had problem with Apress and Oreilly. I would suggest that all publsihers should send book through American Post and not using some courier agencies like Bluedart or whatever.


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Nicholas Cheung
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I have no problems with Oreilly.

Last time they sent me the book Head First Design Pattern even using DHL.

Nick


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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:
I have no problems with Oreilly.

Last time they sent me the book Head First Design Pattern even using DHL.

Nick


Nick is right. I received all books from O'Reilly as well. They sent by FedEx to me. Extremely fast. I love O'Reilly.
Nicholas Cheung
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But still, I am waiting for the book:
1. Mastering JSF, by Bill Dudney, John Wiley & Sons (won Mar 2004)
2. Oracle Application Server 10g: J2EE Deployment and Administration,
by Erin Mulder and Michael Wessler, Apress (won Nov 2004)

Derk, could you please help me to check for them?

Nick
miguel lisboa
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aprox one week after winners announcement i visited editor's site;
there i explained my situation and left my contacts;
right after that they contacted me;
one week later i contacted them again and next day they asked for my details and all finished well
Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by miguel lisboa:
aprox one week after winners announcement i visited editor's site;


miguel, what do you mean by editor's site? Is that publisher's site? Or the sheriff(who took care of the book promotion)'s site?
miguel lisboa
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publisher's
Kishore Dandu
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I think apress is a usual suspect & they don't serve the promise.

I had two books from last year(one form apress & another from adison-wesley) never delivered to me.
Kishore Dandu
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Just checked with Wiley(actually Wrox) regarding the 'professional jakarta Struts' book I won last year. They are not sure of this promotion and asked me to check with the Ranch
Jim Bracks
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I am still waiting for the book i won "Java Reflection in Action"(manning).29/jan/05.

winners list


Regards
Jim
David O'Meara
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1. I don't think contacting the publishers directly is a good idea. We work hard to maintain a relationship with the publishers so that the promotions are possible at all. Having each person chase their book individually may annoy them.
2. This thread should be used for people who would like to check on the status of their book. Please don't post comments of any other variety.

thanks,
Dave.
Varun Khanna
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Originally posted by David O'Meara:
This thread should be used for people who would like to check on the status of their book.

Awaiting "Core JavaServer Faces" [December 14th, 2004 bok promotion]
Peter Sin
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I think you should contact publisher directly and they will give you a surprise.
Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by David O'Meara:
1. I don't think contacting the publishers directly is a good idea. We work hard to maintain a relationship with the publishers so that the promotions are possible at all. Having each person chase their book individually may annoy them.
2. This thread should be used for people who would like to check on the status of their book. Please don't post comments of any other variety.

thanks,
Dave.


I totally agree.

BTW the way things are going or seem to be happening, I am loosing faith in this book promotions thing.
Steven Bell
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Two questions.

It seems that the schedule page showing what books are comming up is updated often, but the winners page hasn't been updated in months. Is there a reason for this? Maybe lack of manpower.

Second, I was the winner of two books a few months back, but I have since moved. What do I need to do in order to relay this information to the correct place.
Theodore Casser
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I really do hate to add my voice to the chorus as I've been waiting patiently (admittedly with the occasional private email) since February 5th for the copy of "Apache Axis Live" that I won in the Web Services forum. It is fairly frustrating to feel like the publisher is ignoring the promotion.

Would it be possible to have a status page for those of us who win, that the publishers could use to show they've actually sent out the books? Just a thought.


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Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by Theodore Casser:

Would it be possible to have a status page for those of us who win, that the publishers could use to show they've actually sent out the books? Just a thought.


This i would consider as asking too much.
Kishore Dandu
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Originally posted by Steven Bell:
Two questions.

Second, I was the winner of two books a few months back, but I have since moved. What do I need to do in order to relay this information to the correct place.


It depends on what the number of months is, in your case. You should not panic until 4-5 months after winning.

In US, you can always give a new forwarding address to the Post office.
 
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