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"Regardless of what the question appears to be testing, the real problem might be the class or interface definition. Before you get caught up in, say, tracing a complex threading flow, check to see if the code will even compile...You'll be impressed by the effort the exam developers put into distracting you from the real problem."
Matt
Inquisition: open-source mock exam simulator for SCJP and SCWCD
Originally posted by Burkhard Hassel:
...How often we will be fooled in the exam with nonsense like this? ...
"We're kind of on the level of crossword puzzle writers... And no one ever goes to them and gives them an award." ~Joe Strummer
sscce.org
Correct answer: an exception will be thrown at runtime.
Sooner or later.
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"Stay on the path."
When they were children, they probably took pleasure in pulling the wings off of flies.
In my opinion the exam is becoming more & more logic and analytical skill testing rather than actual Java testing.
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Originally posted by Harshad Khasnis:
In my opinion the exam is becoming more & more logic and analytical skill testing rather that actual Java testing.
Ask a Meaningful Question and HowToAskQuestionsOnJavaRanch
Getting someone to think and try something out is much more useful than just telling them the answer.
Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
That's because of the P-part of Sun Certified Java Programmer.
Spot false dilemmas now, ask me how!
(If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
First off, it's very important to remember that a lot of the mock exams don't do a good job of representing the questions in the real exam.
Now the question is, what suggestions do you guys have for how to improve the exams? I know one question I have is how do you guys know which mocks provide the most accurate view of the real exam?
Bu wrote:
Hopefully you're right. Probably I feel a little uncertain now from too many too tricky questions that are probably not the style of the real exam.
With this view, perhaps I'd better complained about some questions of mock exams rather than the actual exam, I admit.
The example on top of the thread is not from any of these mock exams. It's on my own and I exaggerated a bit to provoce a discussion.
Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
That's because of the P-part of Sun Certified Java Programmer.
Okay, that's the background Now the question is, what suggestions do you guys have for how to improve the exams? I know one question I have is how do you guys know which mocks provide the most accurate view of the real exam?
We have worked very hard to shift away from "tricky" or trivial-based questions as much as possible. On the other hand, Sun wants these certifications to be hard to achieve. They want these certifications to have real value in the world. So, we are charged with making really challenging questions. Every question on the exam undergoes an intense review process before it "makes the cut"...every question is reviewed by the entire exam creation team. One of the things the team looks for is that every question has to be testing at least one important, core Java concept. We try hard to avoid testing on seldom used corner cases, trying instead to focus on the use of popular APIs, the most common Java constructs, and where people tend to get those wrong.
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
Okay, that's the background Now the question is, what suggestions do you guys have for how to improve the exams? I know one question I have is how do you guys know which mocks provide the most accurate view of the real exam?
Matt
Inquisition: open-source mock exam simulator for SCJP and SCWCD