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Michael Finney
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MS Word format.
I have seen job offers that require a resume in Microsoft word format.
Thoughts? Personally, I think resumes are a waste of time. Q/A sessions via e-mail or in person work much better. Focus on substance and not pretty paper.
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bill bozeman
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I agree that resumes don't tell much about the person and can be a waste. Unfortunately that is what most companies use, so it is a necessary evil. I did mine in Word mainly because I found it the easiest thing to format. I don't think you can get away from doing a resume. I would just take the time to make one good resume, and then over the years, you can just adjust that one. I made mine back in 1994 and I still use the same format just with updated info.
I have always been under the impression of keeping it to one page, but lately I have heard that for technical people they should be two pages. Any thoughts on the length?
Ray Marsh
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In my position I read a lot of resumes.
I hate them. Not because of the look, usually it's because they are written poorly.
I got a resume 5 pages long, once. I was pissed off at the guy before I started reading it! And I only scanned it.
Short sweet and to the point. Tell me what you know, what you've done and how much of each. The rest I'll drag out of you during the interview.
As far as appearance, the same rule applies as dressing up for an interview. Don't be a slob, but a tux is over-doing it. Just look nice and professional.
MS Word has good templates for resumes and most people have Word.
If you use the Word template you'll probably come up with a decent looking resume.
The purpose of looking professional is not to impress. I'm impressed with knowledge and ability not how nice the knot in your tie is or how shiny your shoes are. However, if you appear sloppy and your resume is disorganized and messy, it tells me something about the person.
Interviewers are normally looking to find out the intangibles... is this person a "air-head", "scatter brained", "phony", "disorganized" etc.
If a person can't put together a well organized resume then what makes me think they can write well organized code?

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Ray Marsh
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Originally posted by bill bozeman:
I have always been under the impression of keeping it to one page, but lately I have heard that for technical people they should be two pages. Any thoughts on the length?

IMO The length should be governed by content. No way pertinant experience and training should exceed two pages. If you really have that much good stuff then put it on there. But a skill you used 10 years ago doesn't deserve much ink. And stretching a skinny resume because you're new and are trying to fill
it up isn't recommended. However, a half page resume looks bad, normally a person that's new is heavier on education and training on their resume. As the persons career progresses the experience becomes center stage.
Tony Alicea
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Hmmm...
I didn't read this alternative/strategy which is the one I used:
I was looking for a job as a Web Application Java Programmer (now we are called "Developers").
To everyone that asked for my Resume in Word format, I answered: You can print my Resume off the web from http://alicea.org/resume ! (That's an old copy for illustration purposes only: Head hunters stay away!)
My silent comment was "and if you can't do that, I don't want to deal with you..."
I have heard that some head hunters want your resume in Word format so that they can edit it... Well forget it!

Tony Alicea
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Rahul Rathore
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Guys, is there anything wrong in sending my resume in html format?
Michael Finney
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In my opinion, HTML is a good cross platform way to communicate information. Go for it. Keep it simple though. Nothing fancy.
At my last job, I did not need a resume. I hand wrote some things that I had done to help the exchange of information go smoother. In fact, my intent was just to do an informational interview. I wanted to know them better. When I called them later to offer myself for employment and set up an employment interview, they asked if I wanted to work there and would be willing to talk salary at that moment; no further interviews required. That is one reason why I respected them. I wrote the resume for HR after I was working there for awhile. (HR was nice too.)
Bottom line:
I asked questions that mattered to me. They asked questions that mattered to them. It was efficient and in my opinion smart.
I can see the day when I do not have a Microsoft tool anywhere near me. Do I not work for the companies that require MS word formatted documents?
hmmm
Perhaps, I would go to Kinkos.
Rahul Rathore
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Thanks Tony!
What happens if I have sent my resume and before the interview, I get further qualifications?
Just an example, I am a SCJP , currently pursuing SCJD.
When I get the SCJD, do I send a new resume?
If I do send more than one resume, say accidentally, does it have a negative impact?
Ray Marsh
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Originally posted by Rahul Rathore:
Guys, is there anything wrong in sending my resume in html format?


Depends on the recipient and how anal they may be. You wouldn't want to hurt your chances by dis-regarding their request for Word format. If they don't specify, then send them whatever you think will put your best foot forward. If I received an HTML resume (never have) it wouldn't bother me, as long as it is a good resume and readable.
The content is the most important, appearance is secondary, but should not be overlooked.
 
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