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SCJD or job experience ?

Archana Gupta
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Joined: Oct 19, 2000
Posts: 17
I am a SCJP with no previous job experience,
Infact, I am totally new in the field of I.T.
Recently, I got a job offer.
The problem is that most of the current projects of that company are in Assembly language, C, C++ and probably (atleast on the face of it) involves systems programming. I am worried that this kind of experience may not carry much market value in the current object oriented and java oriented job market.
Also, I had been thinking of going in for the SCJD.
If I join the job, the SCJD will have to be prolonged( as I will be able to spend less time on the SCJD assignment) or maybe even postponed.
Could anyone tell me, which of the two would be more advantageous for me?
Should I aim to complete the Scjd within two months and then search for a pure java job? OR Is the job experience more useful?
Peter Lyons
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Joined: Sep 12, 2000
Posts: 202
I don't know about the current value of the skills you mentioned. But if you want a job as a Java Developer, why not just keep looking? They are out there.
Archana Gupta
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Joined: Oct 19, 2000
Posts: 17
But consider the fact that I am totally new to the field of computers.
Just a thought, but in my position wouldnt you grab at any job
Atleast to prevent the job experience column in my resume looking barren and desolate
Peter Lyons
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Joined: Sep 12, 2000
Posts: 202
I was totally new to the field of computers when I started my own job search last Spring. I had only a few months of academic training in Java, and nothing more in the way of software development (not my SCJP either). Talk about barren resumes! It did not take long to get an offer to do COBOL, but that was not what I wanted, so I didn't take it. It was worth the wait! Don't underestimate your value. The industry is hungry for people, and especially with your SCJP, you should be able to find a Java Developer job somewhere. Many companies will pass you by seeing your lack of experience, but not all of them will...
If I'd taken the COBOL job, I'd have found employment 6 weeks sooner, but I'd have missed the great opportunity that came around later.
So, my humble advice is not to settle for something other than you set out to get!
Archana Gupta
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Joined: Oct 19, 2000
Posts: 17
Thanks Peter.
Your experience is definitely very encouraging

[This message has been edited by Archana Gupta (edited October 30, 2000).]
Hemanth Presingu
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Joined: Oct 01, 2000
Posts: 30
IMHO Another option you can pursue is take up the job and also do not stop looking for java jobs. Although it requires more efforts from your side, i think it is really worth it.
Experience (Of any kind) does really matter in the corporate world.
-Hemanth
DD
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Joined: Oct 13, 2000
Posts: 66
Hi Archana,
I think that it will be a wise idea to grab the first job which is satisfactory to you even if it is not java related...and look for gathering the much needed "experience" needed to get better jobs later on...
I will quote two scenarios:
a) You wait for a java job and do not get one for the next 6 months
b) You get the first IT job you get...and switch to a Java job 6 months later...
now...two years down the line...when your total IT experience will be counted, which would you prefer?
2 years of IT experience or 18 months of IT experience?
I have been in the IT industry for two and a half years now...and the total IT experience definitely does count in the long run.
I personally think that you should take your first job as long as you are satisfied with regards to the kind of project experience you are getting...in the meantime...keep looking for a Java job...
IMHO in the IT line...the first break is all that matters...after you gain experience...you yourself will be surprised how much in demand you get as soon as your experience level rises. And since
I am assuming you are a fresher...I am pretty sure that the paycheck at the end of the first month will be very satisfying
Regards,
Deb
[This message has been edited by Debabrata Deb (edited October 31, 2000).]
Archana Gupta
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Joined: Oct 19, 2000
Posts: 17

Thanks a lot, Hemanth and Debabrata.
I think given the Indian scenario, your advise seems more realistic.
DD
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Joined: Oct 13, 2000
Posts: 66
Hello Archana,
No problem...you are welcome
all the best in your career
Regards,
Deb
maggi sesh
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Joined: Nov 01, 2000
Posts: 8
Hi Archana,
I just passed my SCJP last week. Its about 5 years since i did a couple of courses in computers. I had switched field to biotech (im currenly a research assistant). Oflate i suddenly developed an interest in java and had been working on it on my own for about 3 months. Now that i have passed my certification i have started on a small project which would be useful also in my field. I was wondering if just the SCJP would help me in getting a job with no prior experience.. Since u have been in that position u might know better..Also i welcome anyone to give me suggestions.I love java but is there a future for me in it???
 
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