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Problems remembering the information

Panseer Kaur
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Joined: Nov 01, 2007
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Hey everyone,

I've been studying for the SCJP for about a year now, pretty diligently, I'd say an hour or two per day. The problem I've encountered is that for some reason the information goes in one ear and out the other.

I'm wondering if anyone else has been having that problem. I will read 20-30 pages of an exam cram at one sitting but then will ask myself the questions at the end and I just have no idea.

I've used some mnemonic methods to remember things like the bounds of all the variables, that is fairly easy but in my exam cram book it seems like there are between 2-10 essential facts to recall per page, a rough average would be about 5. Multiply that by 300 pages and we have about 1,500 facts to remember. It really feels like someone handed me a real long fact sheet and it's just tough to know how anyone would recall it all.

I've been programming in C, Delphi and VB for about 10 years but generally I was fairly sloppy in that I never really knew the exact bounds of variables, I'd just have a rough idea. I more or less just went through and flew by the seat of my pants. When I was younger I thought that was a good thing. Being older now I see the best programmers can write code with fewer compiler errors than I. I suppose mostly because they know the language better. Hence part of the reason I took up this project of trying for the SCJP.

I was wonder if anyone else had this problem and any possible solutions that may have worked.

Thanks,
Matt
Sekhar Kadiyala
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Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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Dear Matt,
SCJP is supposed to be one of the easiest entry level certifications and Java being such wonderful language, i am surprised you are facing difficulties in remembering the stuff.

There is a cram sheet in the exam cram book that covers all the concepts and all you need to do go thru it for 2 weeks and you will start remembering the stuff. Also, two minute drill in K&B can help you.


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Panseer Kaur
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Yeah, the information is definitely pretty easy, it's just the volume involved. I'm thinking of going through and testing all the things in the book out, book in lap. I'm wondering if practicing everything will help my recall.

Maybe I'm just not a book learner
Robert Elbourn
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Joined: Oct 15, 2007
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I am not such a great book learner either! You you need to get more engaged.
(Not knowing what you have done) If I were you, I'd download Eclipse and java 5 and try code all/most of the questions. that way you are not just reading it, you are doing it!
ie.
with eclipse
You type the problem
you experiance the problem
you find the problem
you solve the problem

the book,
you read about the problem, and then you read about another problem and forget about the first....

hope that helps
Panseer Kaur
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Yeah Robert that is exactly how it has gone for me. I read the first issue then the second, but by the time you hit the third you can't remember the first two. This is an even bigger issue when you are 30-40 topics in and all you have is a vauge recollection.

I have been using eclipse for a while (just testing things here or there) but I notice that not only is it a lot more fun trying the example (you actually feel you have an understanding that way, and can control things) but you also have a lot more confidence that you know what you are doing. It also allows you to answer whatever questions you have in mind.

I guess it's kinda like sports. An athlete probably wouldn't sit down and read a book on hundreds of different techniques, they'd probably take a few then practice, practice, practice. Then move on.

Makes a lot more sense now. That's gonna be my new way forward. Thanks both of you. I only feel silly I haven't done this before.
Robert Elbourn
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Joined: Oct 15, 2007
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no probs:

something else that may help you, when you do a mock question and you dont understand it, do it in eclipse. And then mess around with the values and substitute different things in until you completely understand how it works. I found that useful recently, I did this with a recent mock questiono on this forum somewhere concerning Shadowing and overriding
 
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