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P Ventura
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Source: http://www.geocities.com/skmajji/Main.html

why the following code prints "True"? It's a comparison between
two constants!?


Objective: SCJP 1.5<br /><a href="http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/java/lang/Thread.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">API</a><br /> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">code:</font><hr><pre><font size="2"><br />Double n1 = Double.NaN; Double n2 = Double.NaN;<br /> n1.equals(n2) // true even though Double.NaN != Double.NaN<br />-0.0 == +0.0; // true<br />Double n1 = -0.0;Double n2 = +0.0;<br />n1.equals(n2) // false even though -0.0 == +0.0<br /></font></pre><hr></blockquote>
marc weber
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Originally posted by P Ventura:
...why the following code prints "True"? It's a comparison between
two constants!? ...

Actually, it prints "False."

Yes, these are "constants," but they are constants representing things that are Not a Number. And because these are not real numbers, they cannot be compared in a real ordinal manner. That is, from a real number perspective, we can't say that one is greater than, less than, or equal to another. So these operations return false (with the exception of NaN != NaN, which must return true since NaN == NaN returns false).

For example, consider that NaN might represent Math.sqrt(-1), or it might represent Math.sqrt(-987654). Neither of these are real numbers, but they're not equal either.


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adam Lui
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Joined: Sep 03, 2007
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i wonder if that will be even on the exam?
it is not mentioned in the K&B or Apress.
Brandon Bernie
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Joined: Nov 02, 2007
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It is covered in K&B. I just finished reading it and remember them talking about it. They do not cover it in much detail, however, it is just a simple concept that you should be able to remember.
Mark Uppeteer
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pls tell us what page in K&B this is handled? as far as I remember this used to be on the exam for the 1.4 but isn't anymore for java 5.
I wouldn't spend to much time on it...


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Kelvin Chenhao Lim
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Joined: Oct 20, 2007
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I'm pretty sure that none of the following will be tested in the SCJP exam, but just to add to the discussion:

Other interesting (and probably non-intuitive) double behaviors:
  • Double n1 = Double.NaN;

  • Double n2 = Double.NaN;
    System.out.println(n1.equals(n2)); // prints true even though Double.NaN != Double.NaN

  • System.out.println(-0.0 == +0.0); // prints true


  • Double n1 = -0.0;

  • Double n2 = +0.0;
    System.out.println(n1.equals(n2)); // prints false even though -0.0 == +0.0
    [ November 14, 2007: Message edited by: Kelvin Lim ]

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    P Ventura
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    I agree Kelvin.... ther're very non-intuitive and confusing. Let's hope that aren't in the exam!
     
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