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Cindy Gusmano
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I'm a student with a major in computer science. I am interested in finding out what to expect in the real world. I am studying for the Sun certification and am in Indianapolis..I appreciate any comments
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Jyotsna Clarkin
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Originally posted by Cindy Gusmano:
I'm a student and would love to know if anyone can give me a clue where to look for a job when I finish and what kind of job I might be able to get..I working on getting my Java Cert and am in Indianapolis..I appreciate any comments

Hi Cindy,
What are you studying? Sorry, I can't help much with job information in the US but you might want to wander over to the Jobs Discussion forum. Plenty of good stuff there.
Here's a thread you might be interested in http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000455.html
regards,
Jyotsna
 
Cindy Glass
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I am moving this to the jobs discussion forum. Please respond to it there.
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Mark Herschberg
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What do you mean by "what to expect?" If you mean what is the job mrket like, just look at the many posts in this forum. If you mean what is "real" software engineering like, see the slides from my lecture at: http://web.mit.edu/hershey/www/Real_World_Software_Engineering_files/v3_document.htm
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John Coxey
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Cindy Gusmano:
First of all, realize that you are on the right track. Don't get swayed by these 18 month HTML/Networking Tech schools. You can read all about their sorrows at www.jobcirle.com (look in the discussion area - link is on left side of their homepage).
Next, Look at the link that Jyotsna Clarkin provided.
You need to be aware that on-campus interview start as soon as you get back from summer break. So you need to have resume and cover letters up to speed ASAP. Again, I can't stress it enough - go to you college placement center - do it EVERY DAY!!!
You should be lining up an internship or co-op by now.
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Your biggest problem is experience. You should be doing WHATEVER IT TAKES to get a Java internship or CO-OP, or any experience with professors at college. Even if you are a freshman, start talking to people.
College professors are people too - don't ever forget that. They love nothing better than to see a student take charge of their life and be aggressive in the world. So go ahead and talk to your professors.
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By now you are asking/saying; "Everyone tells me this - but why?"
The reason you need experience - even basic experience - is the following: It is from your IT experiences that you draw your stories to tell at interview time.
If you have been following the forum - you will see that I recommend developing three or four stories that you can tailor to any interview situation.
You can connect with a potention IT employer by telling stories about a previous IT position you worked on over the summer. Working at McDonald's is nice - but it doesn't meen crap in the real-world US$50K/yr job market.
And YES!!! With a BS-Comp Sci degree YOU WILL command a US$45-US$55K/year job to start. But you gotta have some experience. And there is no better place to get it than in college.
You can expect your interviews to be 80% managerial type questions and 20% technical questions. If they are on-campus interviews - they are nearly 100% managerial type questions.
Links to my tips on interview prep and managerial vs technical:
Note: You may need to scroll down to see my responses/notes.
http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000280.html http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000304.html
Links to my feelings about college: http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000247.html http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000248.html
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Bottom line: Stay focused, Stay positive, Get your degree, Get some experience.
Life has a habit of taking care of itself.
Good luck!!!
John Coxey
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John Coxey
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Test.
Please ignore this message.
Board looks fixed as of 7:30PM Denver
time (May 3, 2001).
John Coxey
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John M. Gabriele
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cindy,
in the "real world" it is much harder to get any good studying
done.
 
Majid Khan
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Expect the Unexpected !
 
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