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Raghav Mathur
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Joined: Jan 12, 2001
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hi
i,ve managed to get a job in a dotcom which is well established ........ i have another option to work with a software solution based company .
if a work for the dotcom maybe i wont be able to handle as many projects as i would in a sofaware solution company .
i want to keep learning ..... which is my first priority .
tell me what should i do ...... thanx in advance
rax_india@yahoo.com


Raghav.
krishna anand
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Joined: Jan 21, 2001
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Dear Raghav
First of all Congrats on getting job offers .
Do not bother much about whether you are working for a Dot Com or a Software Solution Company .Just start working and get some work experience .You must be fortunate to get this job when the job scenario is very bad in I.T Sector .So try to get some work experince .Continuous learning is regular feature which every I.T Professional should be involved in and you should not expect this to happen only by the projects that you do .You have to steal time whenever you are free to keep yourself updated on the various Technologies in the I.T Sector .This is my simple advice .Wishing you all the best .

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Krishna


Krishna
Raghav Mathur
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thanx krishna

by well established i mean :

1) the site is running fine
2) running with all the reqired applications .
the prob is that i don;t see much of coding here(dotcom) where as the other company may have diff project on diff java technologies.
........ actually i haven't got the job but if one has to chose between the 2 options as i have to then what should one go for .
[This message has been edited by raghav mathur (edited July 12, 2001).]
Mark Herschberg
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Joined: Dec 04, 2000
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Assuming all other things are equal (e.g. salaray, benefits, distance to work, work environment, etc), look at your long term goal:
1) Where do you want to be 2 years from now? 5? 10? 20? You answers aren't set in stone but you do need answers. (A wise friend of mine once said "A bad plan is better than no plan at all.")
2) Given where you want to go, what skills and experience do you need to get there?
3) Given the skills you figured out you need, which job will give those to you?
Talk with both those companies. Be honest and direct with them. Tell them you are choosing between those two jobs, and it's come down to which type of skills you'll be learning. Ask them to outline what you'd be doing over the next, say, 2 years. (And make it clear you won't hold them to this, otherwise hey may feel hesitant, thinking that they are committing to something.)
Finally, if you can, meet the co-workers. Working with smart people will greatly help your own learning, and makes the job more fun an interesting. (I'd even put smart co-workers as important as salary and type of work when deciding on jobs)

Congratulations and good luck.
--Mark
Raghav Mathur
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STILL NOT CONVINCED

John Coxey
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Joined: Oct 24, 2000
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Raghav Mathur:
- You need to sit down and make a pro/con list for each company. Write the pluses and minuses attributes for each company. Assign different weights (according to your needs/requirements) to each of the attributes. Tally up the result and make your decision from there. In reality, you are probably already doing this in your mind - but it helps to put everything down on paper.
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- The bottom line is this. What will make YOU happy. Even if a company has stable product line (as you mention for the dot com) - you can always find projects to work on.
Given this goofy economic climate we are in...I think your main priority would be to get a stable job for next year or two. Find/work on a project - any one dealing with J2EE will do. I prefer smaller 1 month long projects as opposed to major efforts.
You also need to think about job stability / work location / anticipated work load / and everyone's favorite ... money.
In other words, consider the entire package presented.
Another issue proposed in this discussion: Do you want Company A and Company B to compete against each other in hiring you? I don't know enough about your current situation to answer - but, if you are junior level - I would not try this strategy - given the marketplace today. This is just my own opinion.
Hope this helps.
John Coxey
(jpcoxey@aol.com)


John Coxey
Evansville, Indiana, USA
Raghav Mathur
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I,AM NOT AFTER MONEY BUT WORK .
COMPANY A WOULD GIVE ME MONEY BUT LESS WORK WHEREAS COMPANY B WOULD GIVE ME MORE WORK AS COMPARED TO A BUT LESS MONEY THAN A.
I,AM 21 ........ AT THIS STAGE MY PRIORITY IS TO LEARN WHILE EARN. NOT JUST EARN.
NOW TELL ME .......JOHN .
William Barnes
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Joined: Mar 16, 2001
Posts: 986

You seem to have already made up your mind about which of these fantasy jobs you want. Why are you bothering all of us about it?
As a side note - when you type in all caps and/or bold it appears that you are [bold]YELLING[/bold] at people.


Please ignore post, I have no idea what I am talking about.
John Coxey
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Joined: Oct 24, 2000
Posts: 503
Raghav:
If the money difference is less than US$10K - then go with the company with more work. But if we are talking a US$20K difference then go for the money. Once with a comapny - you can always dream up more work. In reality, no matter where you go - you will get more work than you really want.
You need to also consider - on a resume / job search: 2 years with company A at 80 hours a week is the same as 2 years at company B at 40 hours a week. Because on a resume - you only list the dates - not the number of hours your worked. Besides, you really worked 120 hours a week - because you are a totally dedicated employee contributing to the success of the company.
Again, if the money difference is great - then go for the one that puts more cash in your pocket. They aren't going to pay you lots more because they have less work. The real world doesn't work that way. There is always some catch. For me, HP wanted an MS Degree and 4 to 6 weeks travel at a time. Most people don't like doing that - but I actually prefer it.
Gotta run,
John Coxey
(jpcoxey@aol.com)
Raghav Mathur
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thanks everybody .
ya , i'll take care of the font cristopher ....thanks.
thanks john.
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Raghav Mathur
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A mess to cristopher :
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