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Java in the UK

 
Mark Howard
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To any of you Java folk living or working in the UK...
I was wondering whether anyone could give me a fair estimate of the job market in the UK at the moment. I have been in IT development for 18+ years now, mostly large m/frame app development, zip Java experience, and am trying to make the jump from what I do now into newer (Java) technologies.
The transition is harder than I thought, and years of IT experience doesn't seem to count as much as 1 year's commercial Java experience. I was working in the UK for the past two years and my family and I are quite keen to return again (I'm currently on contract in Oz until next year).
I've got thru the SCJP2 exam and will sit the SCWCD exam later this year. Not sure if it'll help get a foot in, but I've little other options available to me. The contracts I tend to land are not with companies where I might be able to shift my skillsets, and hence can't accumulate any commercial experience.
Any info will be greatly appreciated
 
Mark Howard
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I guess not
 
Mark Herschberg
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Unforutnately, there are only a handful of posters from the UK, on this web site. Most are in the US and India.
--Mark
 
Frank Carver
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I'm here. Sorry I missed your post, but I don't check this forum very often.
How the job market in the UK looks depends a lot on how you approach it, and what you are looking for.
I'm currently looking for Java/C++/Web/XML type positions, on a contract basis. I also would much prefer to get a position around where I live, as I have a wife and family with schools and so on.. I'm finding it tough going, despite my 11 years C++, 5 years Java and plenty of interesting projects on my CV.
On the other hand, if you don't mind where a job is located, and you are looking for a "permanent" position you should find it a bit easier. Check out some of the online job sites mentioned in other threads here to get a feel for what's on offer.
In general, though, it's a lot harder to find Java jobs than it was a year or two ago. Most of the large employers are not taking anyone on, and many of the small employers have no money to employ anyone else.
 
Linda Jones
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I had no problem getting a permanent job with SCJP and v. little experience 18 months ago, but I think things are a lot tougher now. I know the company I work for hasn't hired anyone in the past 6 months (luckily not laid anyone off either ). I don't know anything about contract work, but if you're looking for permanent/semi-permanent work, my suggestion is to email/ring up a few people at employment agencies, because they have employers who aren't actively advertising but do have positions available.
 
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