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Aamir Ahsan

Joined: Jan 05, 2003
Posts: 1
I have a bachelors degree in civil engineering then I did a diploma in OOAD and then Java prgrammer certification and IBM XML certification I was working as a Java developer for last three years in Canada , I got laid off eight months ago . In these eight I got not a single interview , neither from Canada , nor from US ( I am a Canadian citizen) .
Now I have decided to move back to civil enginering , I am starting my masters in civil engineering from this Winter.
Can't wait anymore for the better future for programmers .
Sachit Mehta

Joined: Nov 25, 2002
Posts: 18
It’s sad to hear your story. At-least you have got a degree in other field to go back to.
I am really scared of my future as I have a degree in CS only.
Wishing you all the best for your MS.
Sanjay P Kumar
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Joined: Jul 17, 2001
Posts: 40
Hi Aamir
Is the market for Java that bad in Canada?Where are you located?
I am planning to move to Canada in March, from the US.
In the US market is not bad, but the rates are!
Good luck
Ranch Hand

Joined: May 30, 2002
Posts: 75
I also have the same experience as Aamir. Came to Canada Year ago, and had applied for every available job and almost all the sites.I cleared SCWCD sitting at home for 2 months and now preparing for SCEA but now fed up .Don't know whether I should continue trying or change my field (I am basically a mechanical engineer).
I have around 3 years of exp. in IT and have done MCSE,Oracle Certification and Java Certs. but the response is too bad.
I have another information to share with : I searched for keyword "Java" both in monsterindia.com and monster.ca. The results were
India - 908 jobs for last 60 days
Canada -98 jobs for last 60 days.
Well I am thinking of going back to India if the scenario remains the same.
Hi Sanjay ! I am talking about Toronto area !!
Ajay Rana
[ January 06, 2003: Message edited by: AJAY RANA ]
Sanjay P Kumar
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Joined: Jul 17, 2001
Posts: 40
Thanks for the info.I mostly stay back where I am now.
Pradip Bhat
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Joined: Jul 04, 2002
Posts: 149
Yes,in India java(or in general software) job market is comparitively ok as compared to other countries.Salaries are not too bad although they are decided by foreign currency.Companies having worldwide offices offer good perks.Almost all work done is project oriented rather than products.

Guennadiy VANIN
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Joined: Aug 30, 2001
Posts: 898
Some people, especially employed, might find this topic to be written by pessimists or losers.
But it is extremely important and informative. People are got in sudden change. For ex., sell everything to move to another country to find himself desperate. I know such people.
Thomas Paul, this is an answer to you how decent people may become homeless.
2 years ago searching for job I went 4 interviews a day! Now I have not been called for a one for almost a year. I have some experience to compare with. But I have never seen any crisis especially from the street.
I for ex., undersood that I shouldn't loose ALL my time just for another couple of certifications, at least not in Java. I know that people with 4+ years of experience in J2EE are being laid off in Portugal. This is non-sense for me to compete with them. I am also Chem. Engineer.
Certainly it is possible to find something for filling holes, but I already dropped a lot in my status moving abroad to fall down even more.
Instead I should pack and sell things for relocation. Russia's economy is also in much better situation.
Originally posted by AJAY RANA:
India – 908 jobs for last 60 days
Canada -98 jobs for last 60 days.

For me it is not convincing because, the difference in offers is 9 times and the difference in countries' population is 30 times. Well I have not consulted any source but I believe I do not make very big error.
Anyway, I also recently laid off my studies to look around. It seems that we should shift from Java.
Developers for MS platform does not seem to have such problems
Aamir Memon

Joined: Jul 05, 2001
Posts: 7
Hello Sanjay , I am in Vancouver ...and the market is just dead here .
Why you want to move to Canada ?.
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