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Rufus BugleWeed
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Joined: Feb 22, 2002
Posts: 1551
I recieved this mail from a well known testing service...
Dear Member,
Need your help. Should only take a few minutes.
We have added job roles to our site, as you may or may not have noticed. We
will be rolling out programmer job roles in the very near term. As a result
of your having taken some of the tests that we consider central to the Java
Programmer job role (and having scored well!!), I would like to get your
feedback on the proposed job role structure we have assembled. The job role
can be found below. The required tests must all be taken. For electives,
the user picks one or more from a group of tests. Please provide me with
any feedback you may have on the job role (name, tests missing, organization
of the tests, tests that should be removed, tests that should be required,
etc...). Your input will impact the way in which we design this job role.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Java Programmer
Required
Programming Concepts
Programmer/Analyst Aptitude
OO Concepts
Written English
Listening Skills
Elective 1 (choose 1)
Java 1
Java 2
Elective #2 (Choose 1)
J2EE Architecture
Java EJB
Java - EJB 2.0
Java 2 Platform Enterprise Edition (J2EE)
Java 2 Platform Micro Edition (J2ME)
Java Server Pages (JSP 1.1)
Java XML Technologies
XML
Elective #3 (Choose 1)
Java 2 GUI
Java 2 - Non-GUI
Elective #4 (choose 1)
DHTML
HTML 3.2
HTML 4.0
XSL
Javascript
JavaScript 1.
Elective #5 (Choose 1)
RDBMS Concepts
SQL (ANSI)

Now if I pick the ones I like I'm going to score better than I'm scoring. What I know is not working real well in the job winning campaign.
( I been reading Harold's Java Network Programming here of late. I am fascinated with it but it's dated and I do not know how much of it I will ever use. But the next time somebody asks me if I would mind taking their little java test: URL, InetAddress, Socket, ServerSocket, DatagramPacket, and DatagramSocket questions are going to be RPG'd )
So I am trying to pick the ones that seem to be what a professional developer should know. I am thinking XSL would be more valuable than URLConnection and I wonder why I am spending my time on URLConnection.
My thought on #3 is GUI is Swing and non-GUI is web.
Here's my picks any dissent?
2 Java2
3 J2EE Architecture
4 Java 2 - Non-GUI
5 XSL
6 SQL (ANSI)
Mark Herschberg
Sheriff

Joined: Dec 04, 2000
Posts: 6037
This is ludicris. Consider the following

Doctor
Required
Biochemistry
Medicine
Calculus
Written English
Listening Skills
Elective 1 (choose 1)
Neurology
Hemotology
Elective #2 (Choose 1)
Optics
Bone Structure
GI
Toxicology
Elective #3 (Choose 1)
Beginning Surgery
Anestesiology
Elective #4 (choose 1)
Advanced Surgery
Radiology
Psychology

Which of the following do you want your doctor to have? Obviously there's no single answer. Doctors specialize. So do software engineers. I don't expect a strong GUI developer to be completely intimate with every detail of J2EE architecture, or visa-versa.
Tell them one-size does not fit all.
--Mark
Rufus BugleWeed
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Joined: Feb 22, 2002
Posts: 1551
Some how MIT and IIT have to come up with a curricula for a BSCS grad. In the beginning the number of electives is limited but as time goes on, and the market responds, the offerings get fleshed out.
Now I'm not seeing this like doctors because cheap H1-Bs don't get treated quite that well. This is more like pickup trucks or SUVs. So I am assuming you can't have just exactly the options you want because it's too complicated to build your unique vehicles. So what they want to know is what do you want in the XL versus the XLT package.
XL is just the required tests.
They are hoping to have good sales on an XLT package before they introduce the MS Series.
Mark Herschberg
Sheriff

Joined: Dec 04, 2000
Posts: 6037
Originally posted by Rufus BugleWeed:
Some how MIT and IIT have to come up with a curricula for a BSCS grad. In the beginning the number of electives is limited but as time goes on, and the market responds, the offerings get fleshed out.

I don't know ITT, but at MIT the requirements haven't changed in years. MIT does not respond to the latest market trends; they focus on fundamental principles. Not only won't you find a class on EJBs, you won't even find a class on Java. MIT does not teach classes on languages (not in the EE/CS dept, anyway).
--Mark
 
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