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Petition for opposing abolition of H1-B visa program

John Spens
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Joined: May 23, 2003
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Decided to take a look at one of the sites mentioned in one of the javaranch posts about the petition opposing the abolition of the H1-B and see their point of view.
http://www.sulekha.com/petitions/listings.asp?cid=34
Needless to say, I was taken aback by the rudeness of many of the posts where American programmers are directly or indirectly referred to as dumb. It is not a request not to abolish the program anymore but a sort of threat or warning that Americans will be doomed if they abolish the visa. It is also disgusting to see how profanities are being hurled at some Americans if they have a contrary point of view. I know Indians have a penchant for arguing, debating etc but this site goes a little too far and must be taken note of.
Billy Tsai
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Jason Menard
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I find it rather amusing. Many of those on there seem to have an overly inflated view of their importance and the program's importance past or present to the welfare of this country. Nobody's saying they didn't contribute to a much greater whole, just nowhere remotely near the degree some on there would like to believe.
Paul McKenna
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Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I find it rather amusing. Many of those on there seem to have an overly inflated view of their importance and the program's importance past or present to the welfare of this country. Nobody's saying they didn't contribute to a much greater whole, just nowhere remotely near the degree some on there would like to believe.

You have to understand it in the "Frog in the well" context. Most people in India are fed liberal doses of news about the accomplishments of their comrades abroad. For example, if Sabeer Bhatia created the free email service Hotmail and thereby became a multi-millionaire, the media would feed this news to the population for a couple of years continously. Why? the explanation for that is also quite simple. India is a country where one can get disillusioned with life very easily. The demands by society are very rigid and its truly "survival of the fittest". In such a disillusioned society the media does its part to pep up the general population. The side effect of this is the disillusionment that they are all mighty and nothing can happen without them.
Hope this helps explain some of the overtly arrogant posts in that website.


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Jason Menard
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Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
Hope this helps explain some of the overtly arrogant posts in that website.

Very interesting. Thanks.
Let me re-iterate that I'm not trying to diminish anyone's accomplishments or contributions, just trying to keep things in perspective. But thanks again for the interesting insight.
Derek Grey
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Joined: Feb 09, 2002
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Sriraj,
Any idea what that petition is worth??
I mean can it be produced to contradict any other petition that's being signed to abolish H1-B's???
Paul McKenna
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Originally posted by San Tiruvan:
Any idea what that petition is worth??

Its a bunch of nonsense actually. Its merely a way to generate traffic to that website (read that as generate money through advertisements). Its amusing to me, that people actually get fooled into thinking their names on some online petition will change political processes.
HS Thomas
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The side effect of this is the disillusionment that they are all mighty and nothing can happen without them.

My experiences have shown this to be true. This is also a perception that is perpetuated by Management. ( I wonder why ?).
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