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Australian Job Market

vicky kumar
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Joined: Dec 13, 2002
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Hi,
How is the Job market in Australia and New Zealand ? I have 3 years on IBM experience in my overall 7 years IT exp. I'm a J2EE speclialist and thinking of switching Jobs to Australia, Singapur or Newzealand. Can someone direct me to some better sites or suggest me how should I approach in my job hunt..
Also, how soon can I obtain residency in these countries. One problem in in USA is that before one gets his/her Green Card it is too risky to but a home. Heard land is far less expensive in these countries and one can easily get citizenship.
Please let me know.
Thanks
Vicky
heath carlough
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Joined: Feb 01, 2003
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YES!! lots of land in Australia..... :-)
Billy Tsai
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Joined: May 23, 2003
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I just left those two countries because I spent like 8 months there looking for a job without any success


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JiaPei Jen
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Joined: Nov 19, 2000
Posts: 1309
Billy, where are you now? I thought that you left New Zealand and have settled in Australia. I am surprised at seeing that "you have left those two countries - New Zealand and Australia".
Alexandre Ferras
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Joined: Jun 24, 2003
Posts: 51
Billy, you said that you are going to move to Australia because there is more jobs. Are you working now ?
[ October 31, 2003: Message edited by: Alexandre Ferras ]

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Billy Tsai
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Joined: May 23, 2003
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I just left sydney after my SCEA result was released and passed SCBCD exam, i think its pretty hopeless too.
Andres Gonzalez
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Joined: Nov 27, 2001
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vicky -
The job market is tough everywhere. If there's a lot of market, there'll be a lot of demand.
this site will give you an idea of the job offerings (you also should think how many of those are real jobs).
is there any particular reason you wanna come to Australia?
It took a friend 6 months to get his PR (Permanent Residency) coming from the US, 2 years ago. It should take longer now.
hope it helps


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SJ Adnams
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Joined: Sep 28, 2001
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interest rates have just gone up in australia, so that should mean the place is booming?
Amer Khan
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Joined: Apr 05, 2003
Posts: 163
billy: MCP,MCDBA,MCSA,OCP 8i&9i DBA,SCJP,SCWCD,SCBCD,SCJD, SCEA
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If with all these certs(hard work) Billy can't get a job,then IMO
we have to think of a career change(fast).

BTW :Australian economy is booming.


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David O'Meara
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I'll watch my language, so i'll stick to saying "what a load of rubbish".
The Australian economy is doing well, but the IT industry is still under the squeeze like the rest of the world. I believe it's showing some early signs of recovery, but that's not a boom, it's hardly the .com days all over again, and it's not a reason for everyone to jump on a plane and head on over.
This is still very early days, but there have been reports that next year may be the first in a while that companies are prepared to increase spending on IT budgets. In response to this recruitement firms are advertising to fill their books, but this still doesn't make a recovery.
Maybe I'm sounding a bit pessemistic, but I'm not prepared to announce that night is over just because someone heard that someone else found a candle...
Amer Khan
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Joined: Apr 05, 2003
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quote David : I'll watch my language, so i'll stick to saying "what a load of rubbish.
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Hey
I din't mean IT Boom.Don't think IT is going to get any better here or in America/Europe.
As we all know that Billy,although qualified(with all those certs) is still without a job.IMHO he should start exploring other avenues while he is in Australia.
In Aurtralia the overall unemployment rate is below 6%.
Matt Cao
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Joined: Apr 03, 2003
Posts: 715
Hi Billy,
I though you already figure out after most of us tried to put some common senses into your case. How long have you been graduated? As a rule of thumb, if somehow you could not obtain a job within a year after the date of graduation, your degree is not worth the paper it printed on. The only exception is during the period, you are pursuing advanced degree. Certs are not considered as an advanced degrees. I do not feel like to repeat the same topic as discussed many times here in this forum.
Since your GPA is low because of your own deeds, no well reputation educational instution will accepted you. Get a grip and moved on. Take a lesser jobs, as your foot in the door, and work your ways up or across depended on the company establishment magnitute. During this crappy time, I think you may be well apply for a job that do not require a degree at all because some "desperados" with highly qualified credential and experiences already occupied an associate degree jobs.
Please do not respond claiming even janitor job or McDonald job required experiences like in the past.
It does not matter where are you relocated to, it is not the place. It is an external environment, you are not in the position to control it, yet. Why don't you concentrate on something that you can control, like yourself? When you understand yourself, change yourself, manipulate yourself, then you could understand why your parents actions. Once you understand yourself, you then can adapt to whatever environment. You will become a professional.
Regards,
MCao
[ November 05, 2003: Message edited by: Matt Cao ]
Tony Collins
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Joined: Jul 03, 2003
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Get into teaching mate, good career now. And Matt though your words might be true, don't kick a boy when his down.
 
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