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"I study politics and war that my sons may have the liberty to study mathematics and philosophy in order to give their children a right to study painting poetry and music."<br />--John Adams
The secret of how to be miserable is to constantly expect things are going to happen the way that they are "supposed" to happen.
You can have faith, which carries the understanding that you may be disappointed. Then there's being a willfully-blind idiot, which virtually guarantees it.
Originally posted by Matt Cao:
Have you ever think that your networking of previous contact names do not like your chemistry? Networking is the most effective way and continue to build them. Do not relied only of previous contacts, they are not fresh. Mingle with those people in your favorite barbershop, church, party, etc. The objective let them know you are unemployed and you are a likeable guy.
Originally posted by Tim Holloway:
Since education has been a poor way to get an IT software job since long before this (or several other) recessions began, I can say - backed up by actual experience - that the experienced people in class will be generally be unemployed.
Sorry. That's life in the USA.
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"I study politics and war that my sons may have the liberty to study mathematics and philosophy in order to give their children a right to study painting poetry and music."<br />--John Adams
Originally posted by Kelvin Hung:
Here is how I network: call/email my co-workers/friends up and ask if they know any job openings. Usually they don't. Then I will ask if they can give me any referrals that I can contact (i.e. try to build the next network level). Usually they aren't able to give me any, but they would take my resume and said they would email to their friends. Some don't even take my resume and just said they would keep eyes open for any openings.
They are the people that I worked closely with before and they are very nice. But I don't think they would put any efforts to help me (I'm not complaining) since this is my business, not theirs.
As you said, I guess I need to ask anyone that I meet.
SCJP<br/>
"I study politics and war that my sons may have the liberty to study mathematics and philosophy in order to give their children a right to study painting poetry and music."<br />--John Adams
Originally posted by Kelvin Hung:
Finding a job is hard. If you have successfully found a job, can you share your expereince? If you are still finding a job (like me), what methods you tried and work / didn't work? ...Kelvin
Originally posted by Jon McDonald:
I know that when you are unemployed it is a HUGE blow to your self-esteem, and you probably have no desire to meet new people, especially those with jobs doing better than you. But you've got to press on.
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Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
[b]Go to local career center - doesn't work
Originally posted by Jon McDonald:
There were several people in the classes I took that were unemployed, but there were also several that were employed. Most of the unemployed ones that I saw were not experienced, but then again, I didn't do some formal survey to get a percentage, and I didn't talk with everyone in the classes. The ones that were employeed were very helpful and willing to put me in touch with folks in their company and others if I was looking for a job.
One weird thing about the whole situation was this, I asked these folks if they knew of any job opportunities. Most of the time, these guys would come up to me over some beers after class and we would talk about school and our plans. They would then usually give me their cards and tell me that if I was ever looking for a new position in the area to give them a call.
I did notice a few of the unemployed guys were a little pushy, in my opinion, with asking other students about jobs. They didn't seem to get the best response. Quick tip, if you are meeting someone in class for the first time, asking them if they have a job for you shouldn't be the second sentence out of your mouth. Just my opinion.
Originally posted by Kelvin Hung:
Aren't the jobs posted on the career center the same as what they post on its website (e.g. CalJobs)?
Originally posted by Kelvin Hung:
Look at this experience as the chance to "learn" how to find a job. Everyone, sooner or later, will face unemployment in their lives.
I can't affort to take a class because I have no income now.
Although I am still looking, I feel that my chances are higher and I learn a lot more than before.
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Turn in the resume in person. I did that again today. I talked to the reception nicely and she let me talk to someone in the company. He gladly took my resume and he said not many people came to their company in person. We had a very nice conversation. So my resume passes hundreds of other email resumes and is being forward to the hiring manager. He also called me to ask more details after he looked over my resume.
Just remember to ask for the name of that person so that you can send a thank-you email afterward.
Originally posted by Matt Cao:
true unemployment by definition
Originally posted by Matt Cao:
It is great if you are live within the perimeter. I am used to advice folks this way too. Until, I face the situation of security fortress companies.
Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
don't spend your days hunting for jobs on the web
Not quite correct. The job I landed in the end I applied early in the morning (showing I'm an early riser), got a call for an interview in the afternoon with the interview taking place 3 days later. Second interview was the week after during which I got offered the job after 10 minutes...