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Balaji Loganathan
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Hi,
Is there anyone working in Singapore now ?
Would appreciate your comments about
  • Java & .NET job market status
  • General job life: like work timings, work pressure etc.,
  • Salary (general comment)
  • Your advice on how to find a job there, like job search sites, agents etc.,

  • Thanks for your time.
    Regards
    Balaji


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    The Singaporean government actively recruits foreign talent. I forget which goverment agency does it but if you search around you should be able to fnd it. In the US their offices are called "Contact Singapore."
    --Mark
    Balaji Loganathan
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    Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
    The Singaporean government actively recruits foreign talent. I forget which goverment agency does it but if you search around you should be able to fnd it. In the US their offices are called "Contact Singapore."
    --Mark

    Thanks Mark!.. i will search in google now.
    Matt Cao
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    Hi,
    Singapore is a dynamic country, a tiny version of US. I am sure you will find happiness there. I have one brother sent there by the company, then married and settle there for good.
    Regards,
    MCao
    Varun Khanna
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    Originally posted by Balaji Loganathan:
    Your advice on how to find a job there, like job search sites, agents etc.

    One of my friend has recently join a firm their through an Indian consultant.
    Infact in the past I have received mails frm consultants for Singapore assignments. You can put your resume on monsterindia etc. and wait


    - Varun
    himanshu patel
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    Originally posted by Balaji Loganathan:
    Hi,
    Is there anyone working in Singapore now ?
    Would appreciate your comments about
  • Java & .NET job market status
  • General job life: like work timings, work pressure etc.,
  • Salary (general comment)
  • Your advice on how to find a job there, like job search sites, agents etc.,
  • Thanks for your time.
    Regards
    Balaji
    Three years back I had been to singapore for about 6 months.Life is truly
    wonderul there.I never been to US but had been to south korea, HK too.
    All i can say is for indian, Singapore should be a good choice.
    1> You can find indian foods very easily.Even masala dosa,idali etc.
    many panjabi dhabas are there.The famous indian outlet includes
    komala vilas and ganzes.
    2> Peoples are very friendly and co-operative.
    3> Almost all IT compnay have presence there including our own indian
    company.
    4> Sinapore Dollar rate is also good.
    5> Very clean city.
    6> Crime rate is almost neglizable.
    7> Transportation is best.
    6> relatively cheap.You can get good foods in just 4-5 dollars.
    7> about 10% population are indian so you can feel at home.Even there is
    one area called little india where you will find most Indian people.
    8> About 4 hours journey from mumbai.So even on weekends you can visit
    India.Also you can afford many visit to india.
    9> Visa regulation and security constraints are normal.
    10> Very big market.Got big shopping malls including mustafa.Very good for
    shopping. Does not have much industries.But have offices of almost
    all companies.
    11> It is connected to all country.
    12> Weather is very pleasant.
    13> Got nice tourist attraction like santosa,beaches,night safari etc
    14> Oppertunity are good.Especially for IT.
    15> Finding home is not a problem.But have to go for flat in apartment.
    Due to space constraints, independent house are relatively less.
    16> There is little problem of parking.
    17> Malaysia is about half hour journey.Nice country to visit.
    18> Respect for indians.
    19> One things i do not know about is School.Singapore have got some of
    best college.
    20> Working time is normal.Peoples are very punctual.Generally people are
    co-operative and helpful at work and are good team members.
    21> I think work pressure is dependends on company and project.I have seen
    few singaporean people working late night.But seen lots of indians
    working late night including myself.
    22> Java has good market there.Many job oppertunities are advertised in
    local news paper.So if you have any friends in Singapore, he/she can
    help you.They have some local sites where you can find job
    oppertinities but i do not remember it now.Some indian company sends
    Singapre on contract(Body shopping) but you have to pay good
    percentages from your salary.My one friend was placed through Apar
    infotech.
    23> Salary is comparatively good.We can save good amount of money.

    One need to analyze all aspects including quality of life not just job oppertunities if you move to some other country for long period of time.
    AW, this is based on my experience.May vary from people to people.
    But i found singapre is very good to live for indians.
    [ March 02, 2004: Message edited by: himanshu patel ]
    [ March 02, 2004: Message edited by: himanshu patel ]

    If you want to become a rich, do not work for others but make others to work for you.
    Ko Ko Naing
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    I'm currently in Thailand... I don't think it is hard to get a good career in Singapore, if u got there... But there is only one thing... Visa Issue... I don't think it is that easy to apply a job from outside Singapore and arrange for an interview...
    One suggestion is to get a tourist visa... Then find a job, when u got landed on the Singapore... so that it will be more comfortable for companies.....
    As for other things, Singapore got everything in it... but one more city to think of in Asia is Hong Kong... I heard that salary level at Hong Kong is relatively higher than that of Singapore... I'm not that sure about that....


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    Balaji Loganathan
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    Just before I reply in detail to every message, I would like to thanks everyone for your helpful replies.
    Balaji Loganathan
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    Originally posted by himanshu patel:

    1> You can find indian foods very easily.Even masala dosa,idali etc.
    many panjabi dhabas are there.The famous indian outlet includes
    komala vilas and ganzes.
    14> Oppertunity are good.Especially for IT.
    21> I think work pressure is dependends on company and project.I have seen
    few singaporean people working late night.But seen lots of indians
    working late night including myself.

    Himanshu, thanks for taking time to reply to my message, its really really useful and encouraging. Escp the food part
    Regd point 21, this become very common problem in US now, as long as i'm a bachelor i can work still late night, but once get married its difficult. As you said its depends on the project and company and also on our project manager or supervisor.
    Once again thanks a lot.
    [ March 03, 2004: Message edited by: Balaji Loganathan ]
    Balaji Loganathan
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    Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:
    One suggestion is to get a tourist visa... Then find a job, when u got landed on the Singapore... so that it will be more comfortable for companies.....
    As for other things, Singapore got everything in it... but one more city to think of in Asia is Hong Kong... I heard that salary level at Hong Kong is relatively higher than that of Singapore... I'm not that sure about that....

    Thanks for replying.
    In any country,is not that illegal to attend an interview while you are in tourist visa ??
    I have seen Hongkong in Jackiechan films only .BYW Thailand is nice place to visit, also they got good number of spicy food.
    Matt Cao
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    Originally posted by Balaji Loganathan:

    Regd point 21, this become very common problem in US now, as long as i'm a bachelor i can work still late night, but once get married its difficult. As you said its depends on the project and company and also on our project manager or supervisor.
    [ March 03, 2004: Message edited by: Balaji Loganathan ]

    Hi,
    I think that is a universal of Chinese heritage trait work environment. If you work in that environment, I am sure you will pick up some of it despite the fact there are westerner companies over there, but you still operate in that project driven mentality.
    You will see there is a substantial different between white collar and blue collar worker in term of rewards, perks, etc.
    The best approach is read world business, technologies, and science magazines, you will see Singapore companies advertise and vacant positions. I will not count on any search engines.
    Notice: Singapore is a very limited in space, you must be the best of the best to land a position there.
    Regards,
    MCao
    Matt Cao
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    Originally posted by Ko Ko Naing:

    One suggestion is to get a tourist visa... Then find a job, when u got landed on the Singapore... so that it will be more comfortable for companies.....
    .
    .
    .
    but one more city to think of in Asia is Hong Kong... I heard that salary level at Hong Kong is relatively higher than that of Singapore... I'm not that sure about that....

    Hi,
    Companies every where are wiser in term of tourist visa.
    HongKong is not hot like it's used to be. Singapore quality of life is surepass HongKong.
    Regards,
    MCao
    himanshu patel
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    Originally posted by Matt Cao:

    HongKong is not hot like it's used to be. Singapore quality of life is surepass HongKong.

    Also Singapore dollar is much stronger than Hongkong dollar.
    For indian, it is difficult to find Indian food in HK.
    In singapore you can find pure vegeterian food very easily.
    himanshu patel
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    Originally posted by Balaji Loganathan:

    As you said its depends on the project and company and also on our project manager or supervisor.

    It also depends if you do not work in home country.I remember one incident. When I was in singapore, it was a time of christmas.The company where I was working, they declared 7-8 days holiday.All other employee were celebrating christmas but they asked us (Indian) to work during christmas holiday.Simply becouse christmas is not an indian festival.
    This is based on my experience.May be rare incident.
    ChanSan Mehbubani
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    Immigration to any country is becoming difficult day by day.Future work will be short stints to these kind of locations for say 3/6 months and return back.Constant upgradation or learning instead of decrying is only the solution I see.


    I am a Papad
    Murali Mohan
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    Medical treatment is not good.
    Sure Indians loose hair here. I have seen many people from India, almost all the people are loosing hair. This is also important for unmarried people.
    Sonny Gill
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    Originally posted by Balaji Loganathan:
    Your advice on how to find a job there, like job search sites, agents etc.

    http://www.jobstreet.com.sg/


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    ChanSan Mehbubani
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    Originally posted by Murali Mohan:
    Medical treatment is not good.
    Sure Indians loose hair here. I have seen many people from India, almost all the people are loosing hair. This is also important for unmarried people.

    .I will advise to take Coconut Oil/Bajaj Bramhi Aawla Kesh oil with them
    Balaji Loganathan
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    Thanks for a link Sonny.
    Pradeep bhatt
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    Originally posted by Murg Masala:

    .I will advise to take Coconut Oil/Bajaj Bramhi Aawla Kesh oil with them

    My friend is working there but he is not losing hair. If you have dollars it doesn't matter whether you have hair on your head on not. Money matters!
    [ March 10, 2004: Message edited by: Pradeep Bhat ]

    Groovy
    Balaji Loganathan
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    Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
    If you have dollars it doesn't matter whether you have hair on your head on not. Money matters!

    Balaji Loganathan
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    Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

    If you have dollars it doesn't matter whether you have hair on your head or not. Money matters!

    AW for arranged marriages both matters.
    Michael Matola
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    Oddly, I just happened to find a copy of Contact Singapore's (mentioned by Mark Herschberg above) booklet "Working in Singapore" on my coffe table.
    Their website is
    http://www.contactsingapore.org.sg/
    Some other sites mentioned in their materials:
    www.jobasia.com
    www.jobstreet.com.sg
    www.monster.com.sg
    www.recruitasia.com
    www.mom.gov.sg
    Pradeep bhatt
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    Originally posted by Balaji Loganathan:

    AW for arranged marriages both matters.

    It is very difficult to get married without dollars.
    Balaji Loganathan
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    Originally posted by Michael Matola:
    [QB][/QB]

    Thanks a lot Michael. Its a shame on me that i too found that link "www.contactsingapore.org.sg/" but didn't posted it here.
    Thanks again.
    Balaji Loganathan
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    Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
    It is very difficult to get married without dollars.

    you mean without dollars or without money in general ??
    One of my friend told me like he was rejected twice by the girl family since he is not working in abroad, thats crazy...
    Pradeep bhatt
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    One of my friend told me like he was rejected twice by the girl family since he is not working in abroad, thats crazy...

    This is a common thing. Many of my friends said so.
    Manish Hatwalne
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    And if that's true, you don't want to mary that girl, do you?
    - Manish
    Pradeep bhatt
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    Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:
    And if that's true, you don't want to mary that girl, do you?
    - Manish

    Hello Manish,
    How are you? Are you in US ?
    Arjun Shastry
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    That fad of marrying only to those working aborad is now not much.Some attraction is still there in north part of India,especially Punjab.Working women generally don't prefer men working aborad.Bcos some xyz visa rule prohibits them to work in that country.


    MH
    himanshu patel
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    Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:
    And if that's true, you don't want to mary that girl, do you?
    - Manish

    I don't.If the criteria is working abroad, than I would reject girl before
    she/their parents reject me.Working abroad does not mean that you will give her a great life.I have seen many indians working abroad as room cleaner,waiter,servent and much more.Would girl understand that the person who are in such a low profession would provide her a better life?
    Many girls have been cheated by so called working abroad person.
    Ultimately they are land up with a life as servent. Why girl do not take any lesson from such a incidents.I hate such like-minded girls.
    Varun Khanna
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    Originally posted by himanshu patel:
    Many girls have been cheated by so called working abroad person

    How can a guy cheat a female by marrying? :roll:
    Not possible
    Manish Hatwalne
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    Originally posted by himanshu patel:

    I don't.If the criteria is working abroad, than I would reject girl before
    she/their parents reject me.....

    Me too!!!
    Seriously though, I have started hating this type even more ever since I have seen my close friend's wedding getting cancelled even after engagement because he was laid off during that period.
    Men are not money making machnines!!! But that's another topic more apt for MD!
    - Manish
    Manish Hatwalne
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    Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

    How can a guy cheat a female by marrying? :roll:
    Not possible

    Countless ways....
    Ask any divorce lawyer dealing with NRI cases. You'd be amused by the atrocity and cleverness with with these highly educated individuals cheat their spouse.
    - Manish
    Arjun Shastry
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    Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:

    Me too!!!
    Seriously though, I have started hating this type even more ever since I have seen my close friend's wedding getting cancelled even after engagement because he was laid off during that period.

    There are always two sides.and each side tries to justify its reasoning.Breaking the engagement is not only harmful to groom but also more to bride.So there must be some other reasons in addition with this.
    Anyway,how many here are in marriage market now?
    Manish Hatwalne
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    Originally posted by Capablanca Kepler:

    There are always two sides.and each side tries to justify its reasoning.Breaking the engagement is not only harmful to groom but also more to bride.So there must be some other reasons in addition with this.
    Anyway,how many here are in marriage market now?

    I agree there always are two sides!!!
    And the reason the wedding got cancelled after engagement was due to fact that the grrom was laid off, and girl's father thought it was justified to cancell the wedding.
    My friend did get a job after another 2 months, but I have seen frustration he was going through in that period....
    Anyway, very reluctatnt to carry this forward as it is gettig diverted from the riginal topic.
    - Manish
    Varun Khanna
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    Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:

    Countless ways....
    Ask any divorce lawyer dealing with NRI cases. You'd be amused by the atrocity and cleverness with with these highly educated individuals cheat their spouse.
    - Manish

    you took me seriously ...
    what I meant was after a marriage a guy is always on a loosing end
    anyways (AW ), I was just kidding !!!
    Pradeep bhatt
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    anyways (AW ), I was just kidding !!!

    You too!
    Varun Khanna
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    Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

    You too!

    Kool .. now I tihnk its time for Ravish to change his signature
    Manish Hatwalne
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    Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

    you took me seriously ...
    what I meant was after a marriage a guy is always on a loosing end
    anyways (AW ), I was just kidding !!!

    Hmmmmmm.....
    Actually, you are absolutely right!!!
    BTW, I guess guy is always on a loosing end even before marriage; how many times you've gone out with a girl and have allowed/asked her to pay her bill?
    What's the word that represents male counterpart for "feminism"???
    - Manish
     
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