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Grishma Dube
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Hi All,

I would like to know how is Syntel in Mumbai???

TAI

Grishma
Sathvathsan Sampath
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What exactly are u trying to find out?


- Sathvathsan Sampath
Grishma Dube
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I've got an offer from them...
I am having around 2.5rs exp in j2ee and working with good cmm -5 company in mum. So i want to know, is it worth to join it in this context??

Grishma
[ September 07, 2004: Message edited by: Grishma Dube ]
Arjun Shastry
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Syntel,Today's Hindu/TOI they have given an ad.They have shown a photo where they were shown listed on NASDAQ.and asking people "You can be in New York if you want".
Its a good company.One of my friend worked there for 4 years.Descent salsry,he was getting 20K in year 2000 after which he left.I can let you know if you want more details.
Syntel opportunities
[ September 07, 2004: Message edited by: Arjun Shastry ]

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Grishma Dube
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it would be gr8 if you can tell me more

Grishma
Arjun Shastry
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Now in which context you want more information?
Grishma Dube
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I've 2-3 friends of mine working there....but the feedback i got from them is not very good...

they are not happy with the work and even the pkg they are getting. According to them, the company is not providing basic facilities also like outgoing calls, tea, etc. ofcourse the facilities are not my concern. But the work and work culture.

Specifically i wanted to know, how good is this company for J2ee...this came in to my mind bcoz the person, who took my interview asked me 'which app server are u using?', my answer to this was 'Oracle9ias'. He said that this is the backend but which app server??? after specifing that oracle's app server also, he was not very satisfied. if the people there are so ignorant abt J2ee, then it will be diff to work with them..
[ September 08, 2004: Message edited by: Grishma Dube ]
Rahul Juneja
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Hi,

Grishma, Couldn't believe this that the interviewer din;t knew abt the Oracle App Server. Still its the company wich has a revenue of 170+ millions.

Thanks,
Rahul Juneja


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Atul Saxena
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Syntel is really a very bad company. No ethics, no standards, all politics. If your manager belongs to the region where you belongs to-you are at mount everest otherwise not. Even if you are at onsite-it's still the same. They take people from low end college-not even engineers so that they can pay them very low. No training and no approach-people just do hit and trial and slog to find out the solution. There is nothing called design and analsysis phase here.
Atul Saxena
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This company started in 1981 with Infy and others and right now infy is almost 10 times bigger in size and revenue to it. It is having a higher attrition-good people donot stay there-it is basically a company for 1-2 yrs. exp. kind of people-provided you are being rejected everywhere else. Slowly and slowly every other company has taken their clients from them and it is not a company for long term career etc. No good salary, no integrity in management and they have lots of back wages cases from DOL(Dept. of Labor) in US because of which they are not able to file Green cards also. Mainly work is in mainframe and that too maintenance. If you know Marathi but no java, c++, mainframe-you can grow there.... 50% of the people are frustrated because they cannot get job elsewhere-they are surviving because of politics and 50% people donot let others to stay there.
sachin yadav
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I think atul is right. My friend's brother is chief architect in syntel. when my friend call his brother at syntel (USA) and asked what's going on now a days? he always says "i am hitting hard on indian team and keep them working late at night". This shows the work culture at syntel. This is all i know about this company, rest is on you to take a decision to join or not, but i would never say YES to syntel.

Vikas Jhaveri
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I heard the same about Syntel. It's very bad company and really too much politics. Heard some big shot out there in Mumbai office just does the advertising for 'Art of Living' (lol). Well they are not systematic and organized. Good amount of chaos. Anybody can get any hike or any designation at any point of time in the year. People make fun of it's logo "Consider it done"-only consider it and never do anything. They have got such a high beatings from some other indian companies at almost all the clients that their count is just decreasing day by day because of sloppy design and development work done by done. People at higher level leaves this company like anything. Only people who can survive this politics can stay there....


Vikas Jhaveri
Amee Dabo
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I have same opinion about Syntel!

Yesterday I went to Syntel,Seepz for an interview. I cleared first technical round. have applied for Team Lead/Technical Architect position.After 1st interview they kept me waited for an hr saying that our manager is on the way the company(so funny)! After manager came after an hr he asked me why do you want to work in Java only? At Syntel you can expect change of technologies & teh projects like production support etc & you shd be open for that..the technology can vary from Java to Mainframes to PB to VB etc. When I asked him which kinda of project & what is the tech you are recruiting for he had no answer. He told me not to believe in HR even if they mailed you we have a requirement in Java Developemnt! Then he started why did you leave so many companies (I have 6 shifts in 7 years) & he went on with that argument for an hr! I tried to explain him that I wanted change in p/f & job satisfaction..& he was stuburn on his point that one shd not change the companies like this..etc etc! When he asked me abt my salary expectations..I told I am expecting anything in between 6.5 to 7 per anum.His indirect answer to that was..do you really think your salary is worth the experience?( I dont think I am asking something more for 7 yrs exp in fact its way less..)I didnt reply to him by looking at his so called position.

After all this I was planning to walk away when HR called me & said they are willing to give me an offer! HR said they have a development project in Java-J2EE? How much true it is? To whom hd I believe manager or HR? I am confused! Any help?

Well..after that long & non technical stupid disscussion with manager I have no interest left in joining Syntel(I can feel the level of politics there now) as such but as I have no job in hand I am getting forced to think abt it.Please guide.

[ August 19, 2006: Message edited by: Amee Dabo ]
[ August 23, 2006: Message edited by: Amee Dabo ]

Thanks..
Vikas Jhaveri
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This company is total junk. It's highly mis-managed company-not only in india but abroad also. There is no system of designation or skill sets. anybody can be anything and working on anything. At the end of the day somebody will be just jack of all trades but king of none. Why this manager was asking so much about company change? What is his business? Only capable people can do that. I am sure this manager is fully faltu and he won't get job anywhere-atleast you should have challenged him about this. I know persons who joined Syntel in 2001 and now at 5 yrs. of exp. getting 4 lakhs. Whoever has completed 1.5 yrs. in syntel is completely junk resource. Now he knows nothing but predict that he knows everything and later he will play so much politics that he won't let deserving guys also survive in this company. Very few takers for syntellites in the outside world. That's why you will see people making anneverseries here. Absolutely no team work. This is the atomsphere in this company. Some of the coding stuff they have done-passing resultsets and keeping the connection open. They have been thrown out from so many clients that it's hard to get any new projects. It's basically a mainframe company and body shopper. They pay really very less at onsite and people just join this company for onsite provided they have correct setting with the manager-may be if you speak the same regional language what your manager speaks. Believe me here mainframe, java, C++ is irrelevent-you should be proficient in the langauge that your manager speaks and on top of it-one's level of politics should be at par you can see in UP and Bihar. Moreover these crooks ask people to sign a bond(somewhere from 2-5 lakhs) if they send anybody onsite. Managers are so non-integrated that one should ask everything to be in writing. Infact leaving the company is so painfull-they dont pay the last salary. Some of the people who are working for more than 5-7 years are not getting PF also. Spoken words and commitments not on paper is having no values at all.
In short go to this company only if you are:
- not getting any job
- not capable
- you are good in politics
- you have no ambitions to learn and grow
- you are okay with very less salary
- dont' like organized environment
- know how to pamper bosses.
- scared of coding
- can talk marathi, tamil, bengali or the language your manager speaks
alfred jones
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Yes....I am of the same opinion....i also got same information from some IT people.

at some point of time, i found in yahoo group ..its one of top 20 fraud company.

so,
Not recommended.
Amee Dabo
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Thanks a lot Vikas for such a detailed reply...I am not having job in hand now but I am confident that I will get one (Not being overconfident but say even if it happen that I will not get a job which I want in near future & even if Syntel offers me a job..)I am definately not going to join Syntel.I was 90% sure that I dont want to join them but after your mail now I am 100% sure that I dont want to join Syntel.Syntel HR has told me that they are going to send me offer letter tomo. Shd I tell them that I am not interested in the offer before they send the same as after they send teh offer letter they will be behind me to join company & ask me again 100s of questions why I am not joining them? ;(

But Vikas can you please suggest me some good companies in Mumbai where I wont have to compromise on good Java work & atmosphere?
Also ..
- I am just not willing to do any politics
- I have great ambitions to learn and grow
- I am okay with something 6.5 to 7
- I want organized environment
- I just dont know & totally against of pampering bosses.
- I want to do coding in any part of Java & remain in technical side
so do you know any such good companies in Mumbai which can cover all above points? How is FSS in Mumbai? Any idea?
& Thanks to Alfred too..
[ August 23, 2006: Message edited by: Amee Dabo ]
Arun varma
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U know how much apprisal Syntel gives.... 0%, 3%, 5%, 7% there is no standared in this company.
Vikas Jhaveri
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Amee,
As far i know Morgan Stanley is very good company in terms of pay and work. But there standards are very high for any average guy to get in there.
Anyway mumbai is never been considered an IT city. Go to Bangalore, Pune, Hydrabad-there are tons of good companies without any compromise.

Syntel just sucks man!!! Don't join such a damn company. It's sinking titanic.
Anand Prabhu
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Many of the expressions posted here match what some of the Syntel personnel that I met say. It is headquartered in Troy, Michigan and they have Chrysler as a major vendor. I used to dismiss their statements as an outburst of disgruntled employees(or ex-employees). But in the last year, I happened to meet quite a few of them in Chrysler for whom I was executing a project. Though some of the consultants were fine, many were simply behaving like novices at work. And yes, after the appraisal last year, I saw people jumping ship in droves and foulmouthing Syntel in Chrysler. And even today, the manager that I used to work with in Chrysler jokes about the 10th. I believe 10th is the day that the Syntel employees get paid and as soon as they receive the paycheck, they resign (sometimes with a day's notice). I also heard that Chrysler has put Syntel on notice about the attrition and also, some poor quality of work in some projects.
Jignesh Patel
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Try Atos Origin in Mumbai, very nice company.
I have been to mumbai and bangalore and don't agree with the statement, it does't have IT companies. There are plenty companies.
Vikas Jhaveri
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That is right-in US the Syntel pay day are 10th and 25th and people leave on the same day and sacrificing their 10 days of salary-because this is anyway lost even if you give proper notice or not(In Syntel they pay salary twice in a month-in US with a 10 day of backlog, so if you work from 1-15 of the month you will get paid on 25th and vice versa). Problem is they have are loosing too many clients nowadays-like Daimler Chrysler, Amex, AIG, Wells Fargo, McKessen, Fedex, etc.. and that too to the fellow indian IT companies like TCS, Infy, Satyam....All being becoz of non-professional and un-ethical culture here. It's not the people at the lower experience level leaving the company-people at top management also leaves overnight(may be they are getting laid off). Most of the employees are frustated here because of the promises this company does at the time of recruitment and later it getting failed. Beware dont join this company:-No GC, No good projects, very short term projects, not good work and bad work environment. Trust me-whoever has completed 5 years in Syntel is said-"his mind is in fixed deposit without any interest" More you stay here-the more junkyard you are.
There are many back wages cases pending against them and if you are in Syntel you might get many emails that this is my last hour in the company.
Vikas Jhaveri
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Infact because of the very poor quality of work-most of the work they are doing at American Express at Phoneix, AZ, US-is being given to Infosys. Same goes for the client AIG at NJ/NY and Wells Fargo at San Francisco USA. Infact sometimes these brave syntellites has screwed up the running production environments also. Some 3-4 years they use to pass resultSets from one method to another method. Very naive and in-experienced people who believe in trial and error methodology-no design skills and above all all these people stick to the company and are not ready to learn anything new or positive in the industry.
Vipan Kumar
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Well talking of naivette, I think you personfied it by expressing a general opinion about some 6000 people who work for this organization.
Syntel, recruit their talent from the same pool as Infosys an dother India IT bigwigs.. That comment coming out of you seems to target whole of that class of freshers.
And talking of passing resultsets as arguments, you should go ahead and have a look at some of the best open source softwares,.. just get into the code and you will find such things glaring at you.. Not that I am justifying it, but using this argument to malign a 6000 strong organization with clients like Daimler
Chrysler, Wells Fargo, McKesson, is naive enough to say the least...
Pankaj Kumar
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So some frustated set of people...Well to start with i do no want to comment on you ppl's knowledge which you have shown by mentionng the Result Set problem...Probably you ppl do not know ABC of performance as if you had known...you might know that in some circumstances passing ResultSet is better than making a vector and caching the data into it..Well no comments...If you ppl are working on Infy or TCS, i dont blame you as this is the bench culture over there speaking...Guys go get some practical exposure...

For once out of you all i agree with Mr. Sachin Yadav. Your friends brother should be kicked out of the company who is spoiling the work culture..These people don't know anything and they screw offshore with their limited knowledge...You are damn right..Mr Yadav if you could provide me with the guys profile i could discuss this with the higher management...

And Mr/Ms Amee Dabo i dont blame you..If you have changed 6 companies in 7 yrs...Its probably because no company considered you worth enough else companies wouldnt have let a good resource go...One more mistake on Syntel's part to consider a guy like you...And you dont have a job in hand!!!..Probably you never will with this kind of an attitude...

And Mr. Vikas Jhaveri what to say about you...If i am not wrong you are the same guy who opened a statement after executing a resultset...Dont blame Syntel...Blame your competencies....I have interviewed guys from TCS and INFy and many other companies...They are so pissed of with the bench culture over there...Probably you should have some look at the mails floating around...

And if you mentioned about TCS...Syntel has snatched one AMEX project chunk from TCS in 2004..If you dint know...I am working for a client who tells me how much screw ups INFOSYS has done for them...So lets not get into blaming an organization...

And Mr. Anand Prabhu...If you are so knowledgeable about Chrsyler account...can you let us know what kind of notice Chrysler has given Syntel...

Finally Miss Grishma Dube...Please do not consider joining this company as instead of doing some fact findings you are asking for advise from a bunch of frustrated ppl...We do not need ppl like you in Syntel...who are not confident enough....Thanks for the wise decision of not joining Syntel...
Vikas Jhaveri
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Mr. V Tech & Panky Techno,
You seems to be belonging to the herd of syntel guys who knows marathi or the regional language that your manager speaks. Only good for nothing people can praise such companies. Exact Syntel strength is 6600 and not 6000. So this shows how much aware you are. Out of those good number of people works in BPO. Till the time you will open the resultset-your connection will be open. Moreover that the very reason-there are Java transfer objects, hibernate's detached object. So please donot talk about technologies you losers!!!
If it is such a great company then tell me why:
-people leave without any proper notice
-why people have to compromise in there next jobs when they go for TCS, Infy etc...
-Why there is such a high attrition rates in the higher managers also
-why at so many client locations Syntel's strength is coming down day by day
-if it is such a great company why is exactly 10 times smaller in terms of employees and revenues compared to infy which started almost at the same time.
-why in syntel it's said that there is nothing called designing and planning.
-why the onsite interviews are just 20-25 minutes of duration.
-why they pay much more than people coming from Infy, TCS at onsite while syntel india employees just gets 57-61 k per annum even if they have 5-6 years of experience.
-Why there is no brand name of Syntel-who knows it
-Why internal employees says that BD got CMM level 5 after bribing.
-why there are so many back wages cases pending against syntel in DOL at US.
-why there is no difference in between Developer, Sr. Developer, Technical leader and Project manager in Syntel.
-Why it is hard to get good resources both at onsite and offshore levels.
-you said that somebody who leaves company very often is not good-but tell me somebody who has no options but to stay in Syntel-how come he is good.
-if people like you who favors passing resultsets are taking interviews-we all can understand the level/standard of the company as a whole.
-Companies has made their name/reputation by doing some work-not just like this.
-Why in this company there are mid term raises and promotions-they are all happening because of the politics where people bring any damn offer to get a raise.
-why the moment people put their papers they are being offered the most lucrative salaries and promotions
-just tell me from you inner voice-is their any standards, ethics in Syntel-if you ever get a equal paying job-will you stay in Syntel-you will provided if you only beleive in luck and politics.
Vikas Jhaveri
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Mr. Vipin,
only those who are not selected in infy, satyam, tcs, wipro-opt for Syntel. For freshers they go to very lower 3rd grade colleges and even take BA, BSc, Bcom, MCMs, diploma holders and some other guys also.

And if you mentioned about TCS...Syntel has snatched one AMEX project chunk from TCS in 2004..If you dint know...I am working for a client who tells me how much screw ups INFOSYS has done for them...So lets not get into blaming an organization...

And Mr. Panky, what people in Syntel doing-you have any idea. 24 hours chatting from mumbai, india office. People at onsite making atleast 1.5 hrs. of calls to their indian counter parts to discuss what is happening in india. For re-imbursements, any letters, salaries-you have to follow up so much that 50% of the people's time go into this. Nothing can be done via email-there is no email culture here. You call people-they are not at their seats and you leave a voice mail and forget that you ever had any work.

You are talking about one project and let me tell you a good amount of amex project at Phoneix, Arizona-because of bad coding have slowly and slowly going to Infosys. Daimler chrysler is on the verge of full loss. AIG-all the projects have gone to TCS and mindtree. Wells fargo at SFO-bank considers giving projects to Teksystems and other small vendors compared to Syntel. Do you want to know any more information about syntel and it's projects. Target in MN, it's all going to TCS slowly and slowly. Fedex at Tennesse is slowly and slowly turning towards Satyam. The only projects where syntel is somewhat okay is allstate in Chicago and McKessen in Atlanta and that too will meet the same fate.
Amee Dabo
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Mr.Panky Techno,

And Mr/Ms Amee Dabo i dont blame you..If you have changed 6 companies in 7 yrs...Its probably because no company considered you worth enough else companies wouldnt have let a good resource go...One more mistake on Syntel's part to consider a guy like you...And you dont have a job in hand!!!..Probably you never will with this kind of an attitude...

I wanted to shift my p/f,location & the reasons I had 6 shifts in 7 years but I dont need to give an explanation for you. Just for your infomation I would like to tell you that I do have open offer from the companies I left reason you have already mentioned!(Otherwise no company will let go an employee) And when Syntel is considered, I didnt find that company matured enough who will respect knowledge of person but demotivate the person without any reason.I would not like to opt for such company even if I am not having any job in hand.& about not having job in hand..I cant withstand politics & longer bench periods. I do not want any free money.And yes..there are good companies in market & who understand attitude rather who dont have attitude problems & have given me offer.
Lastly I am not saying everybody in Syntel is bad. But it depends upon everybody's experience which he/he gets at the time of interview. I will opt for a company who will respect indivisual & value the knowledge,no matter how small it is compared to Syntel who disrespected me without any reason.
Vikas Jhaveri
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Amee, please dont get provoked by these so called Syntel lovers. They have no idea what rest of the world is. Mr. Panko if you have guts, try to get into some decent and good company. I know if you have passes substantial amount of time in Syntel-you are good for nothing type.

And Syntel is not that big to afford doing all these stupid stuff.
It is having 15% of it's workforce as managers and even then they are not able to manage the workforce.

Syntel is too unprofessionan and immatured company.... and this is same across all the projects and verticals. Their higher managers are just jokers and plain politicians.
Anand Prabhu
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Originally posted by Panky Techno:
So some frustated set of people...
And Mr. Anand Prabhu...If you are so knowledgeable about Chrsyler account...can you let us know what kind of notice Chrysler has given Syntel...


Your arrogance and condescending attidude shows. Did you read my post carefully? I mentioned that I heard about the notice. If you disagreed, you can just say that this is not true. Just like the way you refuse to display your real name, I too cannot discuss the Chrysler manager's name. I need to maintain some confidentiality. The points that I mentioned are being discussed by the rank and file of Syntel in Chrysler. If you are in denial, that is your choice.
Anand Prabhu
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Originally posted by Panky Techno:


And Mr. Anand Prabhu...If you are so knowledgeable about Chrsyler account...can you let us know what kind of notice Chrysler has given Syntel...



OK. I did talk just now with a Senior Manager from Chrysler. The manager confirmed that Chrysler is indeed having lots of difficulties with Syntel. Around 4-5 months ago, Chrysler brought in an external independant HR consultant who organized some meetings with Syntel employees somewhere in DCX Tech Center. The meetings were held in strict confidence and no employees beyond a certain role from Syntel were allowed. The meetings were to discuss the reasons for the high attrition rate from Syntel and the results were submitted to DCX management by the external Consultant. Aren't these indicators enough for you to realize that you have some serious issues to deal with? Why were no similar meetings held for Infosys, Wipro, TCS etc? Are you waiting for a formal notice?
Pankaj Kumar
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AHA!!! Good...For once you were right Mr Prabhu but probably what you dont know is that i was there in the meetings and it was not as secretive in Tech Center as you sound...The guy you are talking about is Andy Ho...And i dont think you or your so called Chrysler Manager(which i sincerely doubt) knows what triggered the meeting...Well no comments!!!

And as for you other guys who are probably from the "Bench Companies" thats TCS INFY etc...Well the popular term for you guys is Benchos...So Benchos guys like you come over here and they are so very much adjusted in not doing any work...They find it hard to do any work...Dont blame you ppl though...

And about value of Syntel guys go ask IBM, KANBAY SAP HRs...They will tell you...IBM had put up a hoarding in front of Syntel's office in Pune to atrract the best talent and also please ask those HRs what most companies think about Benchos...Most companies will just take you if you are from Syntel...Go ask Kanbay and IBM HR's....And about doing time pass in office what are you guys doing....posting blogs in a Java Forum during office hours...I bet you ppl are from a Bencho company...Sorry to trouble you guys....Go get into your 9 to 5 government job...Bye bye...
Vikas Jhaveri
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Mr. Pankaj,
Let me ask you very straight question?
What happened in DCX account of Syntel that all of a sudden so many people left without completing a year? Why so many people and if all of them very incompetent why syntel took them at first place? And not only DCX-all the major accounts there is a heavy attrition rates and only incompetent people prefer to stay in syntel as they wont find any place anywhere.
Coming to the 2nd question-In india many syntellites are on bench and slog just to impress the boss and in US also syntel is having a bench policy of 15-30 days.
What surprises me when you are saying IBM is taking syntellites? How come you say that-please provide me 10 names of the ex-syntel workers who have joined IBM and i promise you i will get their feedback why they left syntel and why they joined IBM. Please dont compare IBM and syntel-kahan raja bhoj and kahan gangu teli? A fresher in syntel still gets less than 12K and a 5 yrs. guy gets less than 3.75 lakhs-can you justify this with the quality of these kind of resources. I dont want to say that entire company is full of idiots but a good number is definitely fools. And one more thing i want to tell you that people come to syntel as syntel is desperate company to get good resource and they pay anything-work here for 5-6 months and then return back to the company from where they come from with better package.
Moreover the interview level is very low that anybody can clear that.
Please dont argue on the lost battle-if you are also very much frustated-send your resume to us and we will tell you where you should get training because without training nobody will absorb you.
Anand is right about the DCX meeting because one of the very senior manager from that account has also told what exactly is being discussed by that External consultant.
Vikas Jhaveri
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One more point to bring out:
once syntel trained some 30-40 people in some specific tool in mumbai/pune office and Kanbay offered these guys. All the guys left syntel without any hesistation. If syntel is so good why people are not loyal to syntel.
Moreover syntel is having a bond of 5 Lakhs indian rupees when they send people to onsite-if anybody leaves syntel before 2 years he/she has to pay this money. Why syntel wants to tie a chain in the neck of syntellites?IBM, SAP, Kanbay, Infy doesn't have this bond-then why syntel-any reply Mr. Pankaj.Most of the syntellites i have encountered in Pune, mumbai, chennai are looking for extra bucks in terms of some allowance and that's why stay in the office and screw up the personal life as the actual salary is very less. People who are being sent to USA-their salary is not transparent-syntel still fills the tax returns on their behalf and keep the refunds with them-this is illegal but they are doing this. Only this company in India has a record to keep employees in USA on B1 visa for more than 10 months at a stretch and that's why USCIS(INS) gives I-94 entry for less than 1.5 months if they belongs to Syntel. They are tons of problems in this company-any serious career oriented guy please beware. Morever the incompetent people who are unable to find jobs outside stay in this company for so long and they are this much into politics that they wont let anybody else to stay here.Most of the time i have seen people doing other work rather than actual work. It's useless company. There is no standards.
Pankaj Kumar
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Joined: Aug 22, 2006
Posts: 6
Mr. Vikas get your facts correct...Freshers salary in Syntel is close to 17K which is the salary on which tax is deducted...This was when i joined Syntel,,,Now its probably more than that...If you are from BSC background i dont know...And 5 years exp guy is getting more than 6 lakhs in my offshore team....Coming to 1.5 months...Go get your facts correct....I have frends over here on B1 for 3 months I-94 and let me tell you something else...I-94 is given at port of entry in US and most of the times on a B1 the guy wont even know that which company you are from..
Pankaj Kumar
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Joined: Aug 22, 2006
Posts: 6
this is the most crap thing i have ever heard...do you even know what form is used to file tax returns in US and who files it...if you have to get tax returns you get the money from government and not your company!!! LOL!!! haha....Your facts are just amazing man!!!
David C Mathew
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Joined: Jun 22, 2006
Posts: 28
SYNTEl is already added to black listed software company.
it is not good to join there.
subho saha
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Joined: Jun 15, 2005
Posts: 57
Although I am ignorant about the internal facts of SYNTEL yet I should say it has a very low reputation in the market. This is taken from neutral point of view. There must be something very wrong with that company otherwise they wouldnot have earned such a bad reputation.People dosenot talk bad about TCS INFY or Kanbay and even Mind Tree. Then why should people talk bad about them.To an outsider like me it seems something dirty is going on inside
Shaan Shar
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Joined: Dec 27, 2005
Posts: 1249

Originally posted by subho saha:
Although I am ignorant about the internal facts of SYNTEL yet I should say it has a very low reputation in the market. This is taken from neutral point of view. There must be something very wrong with that company otherwise they wouldnot have earned such a bad reputation.People dosenot talk bad about TCS INFY or Kanbay and even Mind Tree. Then why should people talk bad about them.To an outsider like me it seems something dirty is going on inside


Well I am regular reader of this thread, becoming very much interesting.

Well I request to all readers to read this thread posted earlier.

Syntel

Read specially Sandeep Chimmi's post.

Well I affably invite Pankaj Kumar also to read this thread. I am also a neutral reader towards:
Syntel
.

Hope this may clear the confusion.


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NJ Joshi
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Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 82
My bro in law works for this company in pune ,
thats enough for me to trust this is useless company
[ August 24, 2006: Message edited by: NJ Joshi ]
 
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