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Daniel Tobby
Greenhorn

Joined: Jan 17, 2005
Posts: 1
I have 20 years of COBOL/CICS experience with IBM mainframe. I just decided to move out of this and get on board with JAVA/internet programming for survival. (Nowadays you can't make a living with COBOL !)

I have already passed the Sun certified programmer exam and web component developer exam. I only have time (and the mood) to sit for one extra exam. I would be choosing between the business component developer exam and developer for Java web services exam.

Could anyone suggest which one of these two exams will get me a bigger chance of finding a Java job ?
Mike Gershman
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Joined: Mar 13, 2004
Posts: 1272
I know this isn't what you asked, but it's important ...

If you are still employed, contract or full-time, stay there. Your best chance of getting a Java job in the US with no paid Java experience is to join a team where you now work. The competition for entry-level (I know you're not, but that's how they look at you) Java jobs for middle aged programmers in the US makes parking on the street in Times Square at 12 noon look easy.

There are too many experienced Java programmers out there for an employer to bother training a newbie. Furthermore, they often want their DBMS (e.g. Oracle) and the server software (e.g. Websphere) and even IDE (e.g. NetBeans) to match what you worked on at your last job. Of course you could learn them, but they can get someone who has the experience. Check out monster.com and the like for a dose of reality.

If you are known and respected within a company, you can probably talk someone into giving you a break. Otherwise, you must really hustle to get that first job.


Mike Gershman
SCJP 1.4, SCWCD in process
griffith jones
Greenhorn

Joined: Jul 11, 2001
Posts: 18
Daniel:

I'd suggest that the Business Component Developer exam will be a better choice. EJBs are still a fundamental J2EE technolgy and widely-used, despite complaints sometimes heard. SCBCD will be useful to you, in that it will expose you to the kinds of things that happend in an application server such as as WebSphere, JBoss, etc. Right now, you area familiar with the servlet container only, based on your certifcations.

Consider taking the Developer exam. Your OO development skills will take a giant leap up -- moving towards the level you will need to be useful in a work setting, since you must do an actual project. The project is dificult but fun, and consists of core Java only. It took me about a month to complete in 2002.

Also suggest moving quickly. I think the this Republican administration and congress is a cinch to cave to lobbyists and up the H1B visa limit for 2006, back to its old levels (200,000?). Get moving before we are flooded with thousands more foriegners who will basically work for food and shelter. It will make entry-level that much more dificult.

One bright spot: Many federal contracts require U.S. citizenship. There will be a niche for U.S. developers here for years to come, but much of the work will be centered in the DC area.

Good luck and do not give up, if this is something you really want to do ...
griffith jones
Greenhorn

Joined: Jul 11, 2001
Posts: 18
Daniel:

I'd suggest that the Business Component Developer exam will be a better choice. EJBs are still a fundamental J2EE technolgy and widely-used, despite complaints sometimes heard. SCBCD will be useful to you, in that it will expose you to the kinds of things that happend in an application server such as as WebSphere, JBoss, etc. Right now, you area familiar with the servlet container only, based on your certifcations.

Consider taking the Developer exam. Your OO development skills will take a giant leap up -- moving towards the level you will need to be useful in a work setting, since you must do an actual project. The project is dificult but fun, and consists of core Java only. It took me about a month to complete in 2002.

Also suggest moving quickly. I think the this Republican administration and congress is a cinch to cave to lobbyists and up the H1B visa limit for 2006, back to its old levels (200,000?). Get moving before we are flooded with thousands more foriegners who will basically work for food and shelter. It will make entry-level that much more dificult.

One bright spot: Many federal contracts require U.S. citizenship. There will be a niche for U.S. developers here for years to come, but much of the work will be centered in the DC area.

Good luck and do not give up, if this is something you really want to do ...
Billy Tsai
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Joined: May 23, 2003
Posts: 1304
you don't have to post that twice
By the way should I go for J2ME or Web Service certification?


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Oracle Certified Master Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect
 
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