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EL -is it being used?

Muni K Reddy
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Hello folks,
I would just like to know if its really an industry standard? Are people out there using it? Is it a nice feature which may be used in future?
The reason I ask this is because almost every tutorial I have seen does not contain EL. Except the HF book, no other book I have seen uses it. Is it really worthwhile to learn it??


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[ August 29, 2007: Message edited by: Muni K Reddy ]
Ben Souther
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Yes it's being used.
There are a lot of outdated tutorials out there.

I've heard from an author, whom I have a lot of respect for, that most of the publishing companies feel that everything that needs to be said about JSP has been said.

This is too bad because JSP 2.0 really (in my opinion) got it right.
Unfortunately, there are very few people are writing proper JSP 2.0.


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Bear Bibeault
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Originally posted by Muni K Reddy:
Are people out there using it?


Most certainly! Though, not perhaps as many as should be.

because almost any tutorial I have seen does not contain EL


As Ben said, most tutorials on the web are outdated. Anything that uses scriptlets should be considered quaint antiques at this point.

Most books will also cover all of JSP, so even though you shouldn't be using scriplets anymore, books will cover it because it's still part of JSP.

Originally posted by Ben Souther:
that most of the publishing companies feel that everything that needs to be said about JSP has been said.


Indeed. But I haven't given up yet. I just need to figure out to distinguish the book I want to write from "just another JSP book". The one I have in mind would focus exclusively on using good web app structure and the JSP 2.0 features (no scriptlets!) to write modern web applications.

This is too bad because JSP 2.0 really (in my opinion) got it right.


Indeed, again. There are a lot of people who have a bad taste in their mouths with regard to JSP, and that's because of the pre-2.0 madness of scriptlets. Things have changed.
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Ben Souther
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
The one I have in mind would focus exclusively on using good web app structure and the JSP 2.0 features (no scriptlets!) to write modern web applications.


Does the book you have in mind contain examples of JSTL/SQL tags?
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Bear Bibeault
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Originally posted by Ben Souther:
Does the book you have in mind contain examples of JSTL/SQL tags?
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Muni K Reddy
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Thanks Ben and Bear!

I guess Ill have to learn it then!
 
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