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I see that now a days even freshers (MS Grads) are getting jobs in US in various technologies like database, java, datawarehousing, testing etc..(OFCOURSE, by putting fake experience in their resumes, without any experience nobody would look at the resumes)

How is the situation in India, probably freshers who are looking for jobs in India can answer better.
 
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Originally posted by Naina Si:
(OFCOURSE, by putting fake experience in their resumes, without any experience nobody would look at the resumes)



When I got my job I had no 'professional' experience and I didn't make up anything on my resume. I would be surprised if somebody was able to get a job after lying about experience on their resume and even more surprised if they kept the job.
 
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I feel,
If they are efficient enough, one can learn on the job ..
 
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Naina,

I'm sure everyone is of that belief but I think the practical approach most companies take is hire the person who can produce day one, minute one. While everyone should be able to learn on the job learning takes time and I don't think companies will take that option unless they see a huge potential in you.
 
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Originally posted by Steven Bell:


When I got my job I had no 'professional' experience and I didn't make up anything on my resume. I would be surprised if somebody was able to get a job after lying about experience on their resume and even more surprised if they kept the job.



That is what many guys presently working for smaller pay scales to get that first job have done. At least that is the case with many projects in slave houses like verizon in Dallas area.
 
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Originally posted by Matt Kidd:
Naina,

I'm sure everyone is of that belief but I think the practical approach most companies take is hire the person who can produce day one, minute one. While everyone should be able to learn on the job learning takes time and I don't think companies will take that option unless they see a huge potential in you.



There are some consultants in Dallas area who are training guys for couple of weeks in J2EE technologies and placing them nationwide. For sure people going in this route have 0 industry experience in those technologies, but many are for sure surviving. What takes???
 
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"I'm sure everyone is of that belief but I think the practical approach most companies take is hire the person who can produce day one, minute one. While everyone should be able to learn on the job learning takes time and I don't think companies will take that option unless they see a huge potential in you."

I'm talking about potential candidates only, obviously if you are not productive nobody is going to keep and pay you..
I agree that practical experience helps to do a better job, but it does not mean that everybody who has experience will do well in their job.
 
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During the .com era, experienced talent was so scarce that a lot of companies would hire without really checking references and claimed experience. A lot of them got burned. I don't believe that is true to any significant degree today, at least with larger employers and smaller ones who are on the ball. My former employer (large shipping company based in Memphis), checked references thoroughly and had a pretty significant interview process (telephone and day visit). Hard to bluff your way through if you didn't know what you were talking about.
 
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Originally posted by Carl Wilburn:
During the .com era, experienced talent was so scarce that a lot of companies would hire without really checking references and claimed experience. A lot of them got burned. I don't believe that is true to any significant degree today, at least with larger employers and smaller ones who are on the ball. My former employer (large shipping company based in Memphis), checked references thoroughly and had a pretty significant interview process (telephone and day visit). Hard to bluff your way through if you didn't know what you were talking about.



But what I am observing in the biggest telecom company in US is to the contrary. They just give out work as 'statement of work' to consulting companies for pennies. It is upto the consulting company to hire/fire very less payed, over worked tech-slaves and get the work done in the time specified by this company.

Different companies are having differnent approaches to get things done now a days. The above is one of them.
 
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Originally posted by Naina Si:
"I'm sure everyone is of that belief but I think the practical approach most companies take is hire the person who can produce day one, minute one. While everyone should be able to learn on the job learning takes time and I don't think companies will take that option unless they see a huge potential in you."

I'm talking about potential candidates only, obviously if you are not productive nobody is going to keep and pay you..
I agree that practical experience helps to do a better job, but it does not mean that everybody who has experience will do well in their job.



I agree, most companies really look to hire somone with experience, at least something they can quantify as usable in their company. Training is secondary. You almost need to prove yourself first. (I can only speak from consulting experience.) Company paying to train people would only be if projects are going through and there's not enough people to get the job done.
 
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Originally posted by Naina Si:

How is the situation in India, probably freshers who are looking for jobs in India can answer better.


I am not a fresher but freshers are now getting jobs.Not necessarily in programming,databse etc but mainly in call centers,tech-support.Recently very big Printer making company hired many fresh engineering graduates and trained them for tech support.Designation for each of them was consultant.
Many companies hire freshers through campus.Programming jobs here are very less.Majority of jobs are related with already popular software products.
 
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Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:

Programming jobs here are very less.Majority of jobs are related with already popular software products.



I dont understand that. Can u please explain.
 
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