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Prakash Chicka
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Joined: Mar 09, 2005
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Now I am working in a small organisation as Lead Test Engineer(40 employees including India and US). I have an offer from HP and they have offered 30% more to my present CTC. May be after next month i will get the same if i stick to the present company.
Since I have only 2.9 yrs exp.SO have to join as Test Engineer as HP will not give lead position for my exp. Also my present company is ready to send me onsite for a moth period after 2 months.

My feeling is, if i go to HP, there is company tag and which will help me in the future.
Would anybody suggest me, whether I should stick to the present company or go to HP.

Regards,
Prakash
Gregg Bolinger
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My opinion: I think experience counts for more than who you worked for. If the compensation is going to be the same and you are happy with your current employer then I see no reason to leave just because it's HP.

Also, if you look for another job after HP you are going to have to explain to people why you went from Lead Engineer to Engineer. You want to tell them you wanted a brand name on your resume?

And one more point, HP has how many employees? How many developers, engineers, architects, etc? I'd be afraid I'd get lost in the shuffle. Now, one of our Sheriff's works at HP and she might say that HP is the best place to work in the whole world and that you should do it. I'm just telling you what I would do and what I would think about.


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Prakash Chicka
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Joined: Mar 09, 2005
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Hi Gregg,
Thanks lot for your suggestions and let me elaborate my confusion. Right now I am leading a team of 4 members and we work here on J2EE/J2ME projects. I am getting all sort of exposure like setting up the DB server, app server, deploying packaging and also some time i do client interaction. But I am not doing any test automation or coding or anything. We just do the manual testing.
When I look into the job coloumns, everybody is asking for work exp either on any of the tools(win runner, load runner, silk test etc)or any of the scripting language (perl, tcl/tk, unix shell scripting).

So the HP manager has told me that, I will get a chance to work there on perl and unix shell scripting. But this is hard to beleive, who knows after joining there they may give me some junk work.

I have allready resigned from the present company and given the joining date as 20th. But still i can manage to stay back as my manager is very close to me.

Also this decision is hard for me to digest as my manager was very close to me and he never expected that i will quit the company.When i think of all this, will go more emotional and feel that should stay back.

My mind is absolutely not working as it has become very hard for me to take the decision.
It would be great if you can give me some more inputs....

Regards,
Prakash
ab parashar
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Joined: Mar 28, 2005
Posts: 130
Hi Gregg,
Thanks lot for your suggestions and let me elaborate my confusion. Right now I am leading a team of 4 members and we work here on J2EE/J2ME projects. I am getting all sort of exposure like setting up the DB server, app server, deploying packaging and also some time i do client interaction. But I am not doing any test automation or coding or anything. We just do the manual testing.
When I look into the job coloumns, everybody is asking for work exp either on any of the tools(win runner, load runner, silk test etc)or any of the scripting language (perl, tcl/tk, unix shell scripting).

So the HP manager has told me that, I will get a chance to work there on perl and unix shell scripting. But this is hard to beleive, who knows after joining there they may give me some junk work.

I have allready resigned from the present company and given the joining date as 20th. But still i can manage to stay back as my manager is very close to me.

Also this decision is hard for me to digest as my manager was very close to me and he never expected that i will quit the company.When i think of all this, will go more emotional and feel that should stay back.

My mind is absolutely not working as it has become very hard for me to take the decision.
It would be great if you can give me some more inputs....

Regards,
Prakash
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HP is a very ethical company and a lot of good work is done there,I dont think they would say something they dont mean.I am sure you will learn a lot at HP.Not to discredit what you are doing right now,but based on what you have written, you will be learning new skills as well.

One month onsite does not count at all,as someone has already mentioned in this forum "Onsite is just a mirage - real oppertunity is right where you are".
Prakash Chicka
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Joined: Mar 09, 2005
Posts: 23
Thanks for your suggestion...also I met few of my friends in the week end, some says better join HP, you will have company tag. Few says, the work in big companies is just 9 to 6 and you will not be having more to do. Since I never worked for big companies before, I am totally confused. Would be great if anybody can give me some information on the work culture in HP and learning opportunities.

Regards,
Prakash
Kj Reddy
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Joined: Sep 20, 2003
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Originally posted by Prakash Nyamagouda:
Thanks for your suggestion...also I met few of my friends in the week end, some says better join HP, you will have company tag. Few says, the work in big companies is just 9 to 6 and you will not be having more to do. Since I never worked for big companies before, I am totally confused. Would be great if anybody can give me some information on the work culture in HP and learning opportunities.

Regards,
Prakash


Probably you can directly talk with HP manager once again and can discuss what kind of project you are going to work and whats your role. Manager will explain about projects but HRs may give some wrong info about projects. I guess by talking with the HP manager will give you a chance to take a decision.

Good Luck
Shalini Chandel
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Joined: May 05, 2005
Posts: 115
One of my friend is working with HP Bangalore. he is into Microsoft technologies.
He also went there from the very small company, infact he was into trainings before he joined HP.
After joining he has to go thru trainings for 2-3 minths and cleared all the exams.
And now he is piut into projects.
According to him, working environment is very good there and you actually learn new technologies there.
if you want to speak to him, I can always ask him to talk to you.

Regards,
Shalini


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Prakash Chicka
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Joined: Mar 09, 2005
Posts: 23
Hi Shalini,
Thanks for your reply, it would be great if you can get me in touch with him.
Also I am thinking of other alternative, ask for a shift to development here in the present company. But I have few concerns as whether I can do justice to my job or not, since its allready 2.9 yrs, I am into testing(never done any development). Is it worth to shift for development if I get a chance or better to continue in the Testing field itself?

Regards,
Prakash
Mohan Karthick
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Joined: Apr 11, 2005
Posts: 199
I strongly recommend that if your are getting same hike in present company and you are in lead position then don't join HP, only because of 'name'.

Once you join HP, the brand name fever will come down in few months and you realise that you lost your identity. And u may have to again proof your self and it will take another year atleast.

If you want to join brand name you can do it latter, so your exp plus designation will not affected. And if present company is giving same hike that's means they recognised you.
Prakash Chicka
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Joined: Mar 09, 2005
Posts: 23
Hi Mahesh,
Thanks for your reply. As I have mentioned earlier, I am not doing any automation or scripting work here. Just doing configuration management, building, deploying and manula testing. I am worried coz when I see the adds, they are asking for people who has got exp.on automation tools or on scripting. Do you think that, what I am doing currently will help me in the long run?

Regards,
Prakash
Mohan Karthick
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But handling team , managing client interaction and to manage these things in 2.9 yrs of exp is far more weigth than what if you will again become a test Engineer and wait for 3 more years to become a lead.

To learning tools you can take training, avail certification at the same time you will come up with people mangement roles. so which is good? That too your salary is also good. And you can join HP latter, you learn the tools !! thats it. ok tell me if you don't know tools why HP is selected you,.... beacuse they know your concept is good.

you join HP if they are going to give lead role, there is no other way.

In service indutry concept are more important but before going to interview you have too mug up trivial things also.
Vishwa Kumba
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Joined: Aug 27, 2003
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Originally posted by Prakash Nyamagouda:
Also this decision is hard for me to digest as my manager was very close to me and he never expected that i will quit the company.When i think of all this, will go more emotional and feel that should stay back.


There was an earlier thread by sombody which contained a Quote from Narayana Murthy, Infosys.

"You always love your job, and not the company".

My 2 cents would be, to not have any personal attachments or sentiments to any 1 particular company. Most of the times, human sentiments are foolish and they affect your judgement.
Employers recognize your potential, past experience and find you suitable for the job, hence they employ you. They need someone like you. Companies are not doing any great favour to you personally, by employing you. You work hard and do your job, the company pays u your salary. In one's career, you come across many companies and people. Leaving 1 company and joining another company is the way of life. You cannot stick to one company forever!

Well, coming to your decision, I leave it to you.
Prakash Chicka
Greenhorn

Joined: Mar 09, 2005
Posts: 23
Hi Mohan,
Thanks again for your reply..HP is selected me, based on my real time problem solving skills.Though I have not worked on any of the automation tools, they liked the kind of work i have done.
In HP, they wont give a lead role for less than 5 yrs exp(i am not sure, just i heard it from someone), so there is no way that I can get the lead role. Also the offer letter has been issued and I cant go back and ask them.

Regards,
Prakash
 
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