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Jobs in Canada?

Andy Fisher
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Joined: Jan 15, 2003
Posts: 20
Hey, I was just wondering if anyone knows what the state of the market is for Java Developers in British Columbia at the moment?
Prem Khan
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Joined: May 30, 2005
Posts: 189
I dont think canadian companys know what Java is besides inside their web browser as an applet.

I find its mostly M$ .NET in Canada. And dont bother applying for a programming job in Canada unless you have a Degree in Comp Sci / Or very special industry specific knoledge and 4 years exsperience minimum.
Jesus Angeles
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Joined: Feb 26, 2005
Posts: 2057
...how about salary in comparison to USA?
Prem Khan
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Joined: May 30, 2005
Posts: 189
I think job here in Canada pay alot lower than the US. I ger 35,000 Canadian with a year and a half exp.
Jesus Angeles
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Joined: Feb 26, 2005
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how much tax % are you getting on that amount, there in canada? (in usa that would be around 25 to 30% depending on the state.)
Prem Khan
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Joined: May 30, 2005
Posts: 189
Im not sure what the exact tax amount is but it is higher than the states.
I end up takeing home $2000 Canadian per month.
Jesus Angeles
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Joined: Feb 26, 2005
Posts: 2057
thats approximately 31%
Sanjay Ramasamy
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Joined: Oct 12, 2005
Posts: 28
I intend to immigrate to Canada after a year..Canada encourages skilled immigration..Right now I am working as a j2ee developer in Bangalore,India..I hold a M.Tech in Information Technology ..Would it be a wise decision to leave my job here in India and come to Canada for a job hunt..How are foreign education qualifications considered in Canada..

Can anyone please throw more light on this..
ab parashar
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Joined: Mar 28, 2005
Posts: 130
Unless and untill you are unaware of something called outsourcing and rising salaries in India, it makes no sense to migrate out of India.

Companies are giving raises of 40-50% in India and if you know the taxes and cost of living out of India...the salary gap in terms of "real salary" is closing faster than ever.

I have friends in India who save more money than I do here.....so the bottomline is that if you are really good, you dont need to go anywhere.
Eric Lemaitre
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Joined: Jul 03, 2004
Posts: 538

Hi Sanjay !

I intend to immigrate to Canada after a year..Canada encourages skilled immigration..Right now I am working as a j2ee developer in Bangalore,India..I hold a M.Tech in Information Technology ..Would it be a wise decision to leave my job here in India and come to Canada for a job hunt..How are foreign education qualifications considered in Canada..

Canada simply ignores non-canadian qualifications, don't go there : http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-canada-immigration,1,3199138.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines&ctrack=1&cset=true

Simply read pre-last paragraph to be warned : "Canada is often criticized for attracting highly educated immigrants, who then complain that their professional credentials are not accepted. Many foreign doctors and engineers end up working as taxi drivers and waiters. Statistics Canada has found that recent immigrants earn less than their Canadian-born counterparts, despite higher levels of education".

What is more, if you are an Indian IT pro, leaving India for working would be a particulary stupid idea right now, it's the fastst growing country in IT, your career couldn't ever be better boosted anywhere else.

Best regards.


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Damanjit Kaur
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Joined: Oct 18, 2004
Posts: 346
Sanjay, the more you are qualified - more are the chances for you getting shocks in Canada.

Shawn forgot to mention in his first post that it has to be Canadiancomputer science degree and Canadian 4 years experience and ofcourse references - i.e. if you got some Godfathers/mothers here.

But its not that your qualifications and experience will be totally ignored. It takes some people 1-2 years to find job in their fields. During that time you might have to do any kind of survival jobs like in factories, restaurants, call centers(that is where new immigrants get shocks during their initial period). You might have to undergo some Co-op programs, which train you for the job market in Canada with your resumes and send you in some company to work there voluntary without pay for few months(another financial shock). That is how you develop your social circle/references and then might find job in your field. Once you get job which will most probably be on short term contract basis, you can be laid back any time so again be prepared to do any kind of job not neccessary relating to your field.

The overall picture is negative as well as positive as there are some who dared to walk against the flow of wind and were successful and others .....

If you are career oriented(I mean specifically for IT) then the good choice for you would be to stay back in India otherwise you can consider immigrating to Canada, change your field of job and still maintain a good life style. It depends what you value the most in your life or if your company has operations in Canada or US then also you can consider moving to Canada while still maintaining your previous job.
Dharam Singh
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Joined: Jul 04, 2005
Posts: 162
Originally posted by Eric Lemaitre:

What is more, if you are an Indian IT pro, leaving India for working would be a particulary stupid idea right now, it's the fastst growing country in IT, your career couldn't ever be better boosted anywhere else.

Best regards.

What about money? .India is very cruel when it comes to building your house or purchasing any apartment or to live descently in any city in India.Unless your dad is govt officer who took hefty bribes or you are lucky to have big inherited wealth, difficult to live descently.


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Prem Khan
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Joined: May 30, 2005
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If you are a desi and you want to come to Canada, use your degree in computers to come to Canada, but do not exspect to be working in this field. There is alot of money to be made in Canada, but it is not for IT people.

Many Indians (mostly punjabbi) come to Canada and drive trucks go into the skilled trades. They pay VERY well for what you do. My uncle makes $35/canadian being a machinist, some java guys make that too, but if you are from india, or even brown for that matter dont exspect that money from computers.
Dharam Singh
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Joined: Jul 04, 2005
Posts: 162
Driving trucks and moving to IT? How is it possible.? How about gas stations or Indian stores in Toronto or Montreal ? When customer is not there atleast we can Complete Reference Java.
Rafa Moreno
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Joined: Nov 19, 2002
Posts: 53
Hi,

I'm from Mexico and a Oracle DBA, with 2-3 years of database experience, 7 with oracle tools (DB, iAS, Developer) and 10-11 in IT.

What do you think about my chances.



Damanjit Kaur
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Joined: Oct 18, 2004
Posts: 346
Shawn
If you are a desi and you want to come to Canada, use your degree in computers to come to Canada, but do not exspect to be working in this field.


The condition of Indian or Canadian born Desis(CBCDs) is more or less same.

but if you are from india, or even brown for that matter dont exspect that money from computers.


Its not specifically for Indians only but for any new immigrants. Don't know much about this brown/white thing but recently a close friend of mine from India( ofcourse a brown south indian guy with ICWA, CA and Oracle Financials from India) was disqualified for an Accountant job just because he was new in Canada although he had Canadian experience in the same office where this vacancy was to be filled up. Even his white supervisor was surprised at him not being selected for the job and the one who was chosen came to my friend the very second day of her joining the job- to ask about this Oracle Financial thing.
ab parashar
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Joined: Mar 28, 2005
Posts: 130
Building a house is very expensive in the US as well...however if you work here for 5-6 years then you can probably buy one in India....but the way the real estate is going in Delhi/Bangalore I think the money target will keep changing....

As far as this Desi descrimination is concerned, things are a lot better in UK / US ...at least I never faced any and the pay is much better as well....

The only bad thing is that with the way Lou Dobbs, Christin Romans etc just show the clips with people crossing and jumping the borders and fences and start talking about H1-B and visa numbers,people start equating illegal imigration with H1Bs. How is that tolerable? They even go to the extent saying that these visa holders are not traceable by INS. Come on we got SSN's.
 
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