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Anand Hariharan
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Joined: Aug 22, 2006
Posts: 257

Hello from this first time poster.

Am a newbie to Java, and until Google acquired Deja, was a relative newbie to web based forums such as this one.

My question is: What are the pros and cons of 'lurking' in a forum such as this one as opposed to spending time at say one of the umpteen c.l.j.* groups?

thank you for listening,
- Anand


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Jeroen T Wenting
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Joined: Apr 21, 2006
Posts: 1847
In my experience the quality of information found on usenet has sadly declined a lot over the last several years.
Up until about 5 years ago it was THE source for information for most serious internet users, but nowadays it's 90% crud and spam sadly.
Many previously useful and friendly usenet groups have deteriorated into places for people to have their flamewars against anyone with opposing views for example.
Quite a few usenet groups have because of that been completely abandoned by everyone who used them in the past, so now the spammers and flamers are the only regulars left. Others have been perverted into other purposes entirely. For example I've seen photography channels turned into porn channels by the relentless posting of porn images by a few individuals.

There are still useful groups, mostly those which are run by individual organisations and companies who provide monitoring and moderation (something completely lacking from most of usenet because of its very nature).


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Anand Hariharan
Rancher

Joined: Aug 22, 2006
Posts: 257

Originally posted by Jeroen T Wenting:
In my experience the quality of information found on usenet has sadly declined a lot over the last several years.
Up until about 5 years ago it was THE source for information for most serious internet users, but nowadays it's 90% crud and spam sadly.
Many previously useful and friendly usenet groups have deteriorated into places for people to have their flamewars against anyone with opposing views for example.
Quite a few usenet groups have because of that been completely abandoned by everyone who used them in the past, so now the spammers and flamers are the only regulars left. Others have been perverted into other purposes entirely. For example I've seen photography channels turned into porn channels by the relentless posting of porn images by a few individuals.

There are still useful groups, mostly those which are run by individual organisations and companies who provide monitoring and moderation (something completely lacking from most of usenet because of its very nature).


Thanks for your reply, Jeroen.

While what you say (reg. 90% crud) might be true for many of the groups on the Usenet, I would say that the comp.lang.* groups have pretty decent S/N ratios. And while the lack of moderation does cause the occasional flame war, one can always ignore portions of a thread in a decent newsreader.

I feel two things lacking in a web-based forum such as JavaRanch -

  • Can't read posts offline
  • Conversations are single-threaded - not tree like


  • What JavaRanch has got going for itself is the humongously big "terms and conditions" to adher to.

    With the web site moving from a CGI based to a Java based technology, is there a RSS feed for the posts in these forums?

    - Anand
    Marilyn de Queiroz
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    Originally posted by Anand Hariharan:
    With the web site moving from a CGI based to a Java based technology, is there a RSS feed for the posts in these forums?

    We tried it once for one forum and the server couldn't handle the volume. Undoubtedly we'll try again before too long.


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