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Which should I go for?

Timothy Sam
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Hi, I'm a starter and is caught up on a very confusing scenario... First of all, I'm working for a company currently entering the software development business as a Java Trainee... My position would be like that for about six months and I've alread worked on the first month. Now there is an offer to me
(on another company) which would double my salary, but could probably be only on a project based basis... Agai, I'm not sure if they could offer me full time... But is staying with a start-up company as a trainee for six months do me any good? Or would I rather be a consultant and eventuall aim for a regular position? What do you think guys? Thanks!


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Zip Ped
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Joined: Jul 26, 2005
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I think start up companies are a fantastic environment(long hours, hard core coding) to work if you are a fresher. You'll get exposed to a lot of technologies cos they dont hire many people(and hence more responsibility on you) and you'll learn a lot of stuffs.

Try to get as much exposure as possible in the initial years as possible as that would groom you to the needs of the software industry.

I started as an Intern in a small company and I learnt struts, j2ee hard core development within 6 weeks of this job(i had no previous knowledge of j2ee).

If you start in a big organisation you might have the brand name but you won't learn that much cos they got big teams to handle the development and you might just be given a small role(and your learning curve would be longer).

Also, don't go for consultancy in the beginning as those guys would just fake up your resume and market you. They might pay you twice as much but what's the hurry, you havent even started your career yet. Money will come with good work and time.

If you do not have any corporate like experience, then i suggest you start as an intern or a temp in some small company and once you get enough experience and prove yourself, you can ask for a raise or look for a better job.

Take one step at a time.
T Zaman
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Joined: Oct 31, 2005
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Originally posted by kailash thiyagarajan:

Also, don't go for consultancy in the beginning as those guys would just fake up your resume and market you. They might pay you twice as much but what's the hurry, you havent even started your career yet. Money will come with good work and time.



Hi kailash thiyagarajan ,
I just got an offer from a consultancy firm. Could you please give some more idea about them? Are you suggesting that consultancy firm is not good for the career? I need the job for both money and experience. I also have to relocate for this job. Therefore, I should consider it carefully. Tell me your views.
[ December 03, 2005: Message edited by: T khan ]

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Zip Ped
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Hi,

I think you should check with the consultancy firm whether they are going to put some fake experience into your resume or are they just going to forward your resume to their clients? I would say DONT if its the first case and if you dont not have any kind of experience.


What these guys do is that they'll train you for a month, put some 5 yrs experience into your resume. They can get you only as far as clearing the interview. After that you might land up as a Team lead or senior developer with no experience and no clue about your job. I know a guy from my company did the same and he got fired from his previous job because they found out about the fake experience.

I think there are a lot of oppurtunities for interns or temporary entry level contract jobs. You can always try there. Once you get the experience, you would be in a better position to decide whats best for you.

So please do ask them about this and then go for it.

If they are just going to forward you resume then its perfectly fine.
T Zaman
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Originally posted by kailash thiyagarajan:
Hi,

I think you should check with the consultancy firm whether they are going to put some fake experience into your resume or are they just going to forward your resume to their clients? I would say DONT if its the first case and if you dont not have any kind of experience.


What these guys do is that they'll train you for a month, put some 5 yrs experience into your resume. They can get you only as far as clearing the interview. After that you might land up as a Team lead or senior developer with no experience and no clue about your job. I know a guy from my company did the same and he got fired from his previous job because they found out about the fake experience.

I think there are a lot of oppurtunities for interns or temporary entry level contract jobs. You can always try there. Once you get the experience, you would be in a better position to decide whats best for you.

So please do ask them about this and then go for it.

If they are just going to forward you resume then its perfectly fine.


Hi kailash thiyagarajan,
Thanks a lot for your important information. Actually I think my case is the first case. They said they will train me for 5 weeks then they will put experience to my resume and send me to their clients for interview. But I am not sure they will put fake experience to my resume or not.
I am Canadian and looking for full time position. Here in Canada the job market is not as good as u.s.a.. Do you know any company in u.s.a. how are providing TN visa sponsorship for entry level position. Thanks in advance.

T khan
Zip Ped
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Sorry dude. I dont have much knowledge about the visa. Glad I could be of some help.

One thing, if they are going to train you, then I am pretty sure they are going to put fake experience in your resume.
Roger Chung-Wee
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When you are starting as a trainee, forget about salary - it's the experience that matters. If you are any good, you will find well-paid jobs in future.

Also, many employers are wary about people who jump from job to job. In my view, it's crazy to leave your job now.


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