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Arthur D'souza
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Joined: Dec 02, 2005
Posts: 2
Hello All,

First post this...
Me s/w enggr with 2 yrs 3 mnths total exp and all in java/j2ee.
Got no certifications and not interested in giving any.

Looked for a job change 15 days ago and was smothered with offers.
Have many offers but have decided not to go in for Satyam/Wipro..etc or the
Cognizant/Accenture...etc types of companies..
Seriously not 1 of them could tell me the type of work i could get in their companies...


But am seriously thinking of 2 offers.
T-Systems and Sun Microsystems (both at pune).

Could any 1 give me inputs about the 2 companies and the type of work i can expect in pune....

Please i kno both are huge companies and the brand name etc...
am interested specifically in the type of work i can get to do over there..
inputs from ppl working there would be gr8.

T is interesting cos its their RnD centre and only a yr old with around 400 ppl .. don kno about Sun...

also what is normally the renumeration for some1 with my exp.

am getting 5 lacs p.a . how does this compare with the industry and within these companies ( if ppl working there can tell me...).

Thanks in advance
Arthur
Ram Munshi
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Joined: Aug 09, 2005
Posts: 55
Arthur:

Good to hear that you have got offer from all the big companies.Also the offer from T Systems and Sun is extremely good compared to these shops.
How much you are getting currently ,whether the salary offer is 5 lacs or this is what you are currently getting ?
As far my opinion is concerned I would vote for Sun ,this would give you better brand name as well as you can plan your long term
goals there ,though T Systems is also good but you are going to work only in telecom domain.

Ram


Ram Munshi
Kj Reddy
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Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 1704
Sun will give you better brand name but not sure if they can give you better work in Pune center.

T systems may give you better work.
Varun Khanna
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Joined: May 30, 2002
Posts: 1400
Sun Microsystems in Pune?
Where are they in Pune and what have they told you about the kind of work you would be doing?


- Varun
Mani vannan
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Joined: Aug 21, 2004
Posts: 185
Glad to see the offers Arthur. I dont know about T Systems. But, we know Sun as the father of Java and all its sibblings.

Sun does core development work like j2sdk development in US and does quality testing, maintanenance and etc in Bangalore ICE.

Anyway you contact the HR/concern regarding your designation and work type.

Best of luck.


Manivannan
Arun Sharma
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Joined: Dec 24, 2003
Posts: 40
Where is Sun in Pune ? Could you tell me the address please ? I am also interested if I decide to change in the future. One of my friends joined in T-Systems recently and he is quite happy with the work culture and also work. I am not aware the salary standards of T-System though.Don't look at it in absolute terms. How much raise did you get over your current salary though. If its 25-30 % or more, you should be pretty happy. In any case the offer is consistent with the general standards in Pune. That's what I think.
Arthur D'souza
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Joined: Dec 02, 2005
Posts: 2
Thanks to ppl whu have replied till now...

Ram : i make 3.6 currently. am being offered 5 at these places.
T-systems is the parent company. its a Deutsche Telekom group company
and T mobile is just 1 of their (huge) subsidaries.
So the work in T-systems is not just in the telecom domain.
Even i had a similar idea but this was cleared to me in the interview.
They do Enterprise work in a lot of domains.
u can visit www.t-systems.com and check out competence areas for more
info. so, is this salary good? (there was no negotiation !! they din
even ask wht i expected)

Manni : ya i kno sun is the father of java and its our dream to work there.
But the problem of these shops in india is tht thy don do core
development here like u said (except a few like adobe,google etc)
and i wont bother much about the brand name if the work aint good.
HR ppl don have a clue of wht goes on with respect to work.
hence the question in this forum.

Varun & Arun : could u please try to find out more about T from ur friends.
about the work and pay..

also sun is setting shop in pune. i gave the interview in mumbai.
i blv its going to be at the ICC in pune. havent yet got the
details.
Ram Munshi
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Joined: Aug 09, 2005
Posts: 55
Yeah,I feel salary is good enough if you are not from IIT,According to my experience in the initial years person should
not concentrate on salary(if he is getting industry standard) and try to foucs on good work and learning new skills
also the domain knowledge is very importent.
Once you get around 5 years of solid experience ,you can ask anything.......any companay would not hesitate
If you are good enough and have required expertise

Ram
Amit Basnak
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Joined: Mar 15, 2004
Posts: 71
Arthur ,
Both the companies are great, recently one of my friend, joined T-Systems at Pune and hes very happy abt their work culture and pay.
He had two offers one from T-systems and the other one from MBT but he selected T-systems for the challlenging assignments and the salary package.
he will be going onsite (Germany)

Regards,
Amit
s jain
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Joined: Nov 22, 2005
Posts: 102
hi arthur,
where u have joined ultimately?how is their work in enterprise domain(j2ee)?
Meneka Murthy
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Joined: Mar 20, 2006
Posts: 1
Hi ,
do any of you guys know the address of t systems in pune?as i am trying to apply to that company and i did email a lady in the company after seeing the ad in the news paper, but no one seemed to reply, so i want to go to the company and meet someone. I wuld be highly obliged if someone can give me the address of t systems,
thanx
meneka
Abhijit Kumar
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Joined: Feb 11, 2006
Posts: 14
@Meneka: Find them at Senapati Bapat Road, ICC Building

AK
Vasu Reddy
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Joined: Sep 13, 2005
Posts: 32
he will be going onsite (Germany)


Correct, you will get onsite chances to Germany
 
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