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Vijaishanker bala
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Joined: Sep 08, 2005
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Hi, my name is Vijai and I am currently on the verge of finishing my Masters(MSc) in Software Technology from Germany. I have got 1 year of work experience in the form of a 6 month Internship and a 6 month Thesis both of them done at Lufthansa in Germany in the fields of J2EE,eMatrix PLM and Eclipse plugin development. I have also completed a few MSc projects in J2EE and core java. Now with a few more months left to Graduate as a Masters, I am in a dilemna as to which one to pursue...

1. Stay back in Germany and use up valuable time to hunt for jobs here.
2. Apply for this so called bodyshopper's H1B and look around there.
3. Get back to India and start looking around for jobs.

since graduating at Bachelors, I have always wanted to work at either of these companies, IBM, Sun Microsystems,Intel, HP,SAP,Siemens,Oracle,Google and Microsoft. Will my coming back to India be favourable to land me a position maybe in atleast 2 years or earlier in those companies and what would be the pay scale in the above mentioned companies or any other companies for a candidature with the above caliber.

I would also like to know what would be the best way to apply for positions to those companies, because everytime I check their website for positions, they do not seem to have something for an experience of 1 year.

Thanks in anticipation,

Vijaishanker


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Jeroen T Wenting
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Joined: Apr 21, 2006
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While your graduation work needs a place on your CV it won't count as work experience when looking for a job, always remember that.

If your visum for Germany allows you to work there after you complete your education (do check that, if you have a student visum it won't) you may want to stay there if you can get a job there.
In that case I'd see if Lufthansa has an opening for you, since you already have a foot in the door there (they may also be able to assist in getting a work permit if you need one).

Never go with bodyshops to get an H1. You'll be entering the US illegally (effectively, as you'll be there under false pretenses), and you'll also be abused and getting paid far less than you should in most cases.

Or go back to India and get a job there. ABN AMRO has just today announced they're firing another 2500+ IT workers in the Netherlands alone and moving that work to the far east, which should mean another few thousand jobs in India alone to offset the thousands of people here loosing their jobs and being driven into poverty.


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Vijaishanker bala
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Thanks for the suggestion Jer´┐Żn, but the new bill that came into effect in Germany allows me to convert my Studium Visum to something that I can use to search for work here, maybe i will give that a try.
And regarding jobs in India, with the profile I mentioned, can someone guide me as to how I can harness the same to get a good paying job in India...Should I go in for certifications and if yes, which ones...and what might be the minimum pay scale for the same in India...

Thanks

Vijai
Vijaishanker bala
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any suggestions pls..i am still waiting..

Thanks
Sundar Murthi
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Joined: Mar 05, 2004
Posts: 209
Hi Vijai

In your profile your specified as Eclipse plugin development experience. If possible try with searching in eclipse technology. Lot of requirement in this technology, there is no good people in that. Currently i am working in eclipse plugin development only.
Vijaishanker bala
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Thanks Sundar for the reply...but if i focus my career on Eclipse based jobs, then my career in the long run will depend on the success of the IDE, though it is highly successful as of now, but when another better open source IDE comes out and developers flock to the new IDE...the demand for eclipse plugin development dies...and I will be back to square 1...

Vijai
Sundar Murthi
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I accept technology is always changing. If another IDE or technology coming means all are new to that one. Whay can't u easily switch to that one. Just take the case of java language, before java become famous, people are in c , c++ and some other, How they switched to java?.

As of my point, Only thing you need to choose domain, wether you like to go in system side IDE development or not. Once you become professional in IDE development you can easily adopt in any IDE or plug-in development.
Ramasubbhu Allur Kuppusamy
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Joined: Sep 16, 2005
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Hi Vijai,

I have always wanted to work at either of these companies, IBM, Sun Microsystems,Intel, HP,SAP,Siemens,Oracle,Google and Microsoft.


As of now, India is the best place to be in if you are looking out for Software Openings. However, the companies you have mentioned hire freshers predominantly through campus interviews. With respect to payscle for a fresher, Microsoft 0ffers around 10 lakh Indian Rupees per annum whereas Google offers 15 lakhs. The rest, offer in the range of 2 to 5 lakhs.
I would recommend you to join even a small company in India and learn the tricks in Java/J2EE for atleast 2 years. Later on, you can call the shots and join a company in your wishlist. The key would be to be patient till you become an experienced professional. This is very much realistic. Good Luck.


Regards,<br />Ram.<br />SCJP 1.4
kittu vadde
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Joined: May 13, 2006
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if are planning to come back to india and if u r ready to face 8 rounds then i'll refer u in oracle, either in server tech or in Apps dev. pay will be around 5 lakh per anum.


SCJP 1.4 <br />SCWCD 1.4 <br />SCBCD 'have start...
Vijaishanker bala
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Thanks for the suggestions Ramasubbhu Allur Kuppusamy and Kittu vaade,I guess I will come down home(India) after I finish my degree...And Kittu vaade, I had sent u an email, hope u had received it...

Thanks
 
 
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