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General persistence forum?

David Nemeskey
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Joined: Nov 08, 2006
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I have had a look at the database/persistence related forums in the Saloon, and I have only found two: the one about O-R mappings, and the one about JDBC. However, there is not good place to ask questions about object databases, for instance.

I think having a general "Persistence" forum would not hurt.
Ilja Preuss

Joined: Jul 11, 2001
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I think asking such a question in the General (advanced) would be totally ok.

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Mark Spritzler

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I am a little bit confused. The title "Persistence" to me means to save. Not specific or general to say to me Databases. Now Databases says databases to me.


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David Nemeskey
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Joined: Nov 08, 2006
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I suggested persistence because it is broader than databases, and more likely to "deserve" a forum. According to Wikipedia,
In programming, persistence refers specifically to the ability to retain data structures between program executions, such as, for example, an image editing program saving complex selections or a word processor saving undo history.

This is achieved in practice by storing the data in non-volatile storage such as a file system or a relational database or an object database.

I think it may be a big enough topic (may also include serialization). But since I am new around here, and you are the sherrifs, I guess you know better what needs a forum and what not.
Jeroen T Wenting
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Joined: Apr 21, 2006
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It's such a broad subject that it's better handled in the specific fora for each individual technology dealing with it.
Else you'd have a forum where 90% of the posts would just end up being moved somewhere else and the rest be posts like "what persistence technology is best" (without of course mentioning a specific scenario because that would almost always make the post more relevant in a more specific forum).

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