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How is the Job Market in your Country for the entry level programmers?

Rocco Feri
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Joined: Dec 17, 2005
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Hello,

I hold a BSc in Physics from the highest ranked university in Greece and an MSc in OO Software Systems from City University London (focused on Java). I am looking for a job for 6 months now, in Greece. I have a score of 6 interviews out of every 10 applications I make.
95% of the job announcements are looking for at least 2 years of prior work experience.
The salary for a fresher is 900 euro net, or 1200 euro (+tax+insurance).
I am not sure about when will I finally find a job. Most of the graduates here holding an MSc or a very good BSc find a job within 1 to 2 years.
I would like to hear about the job market state in your country (especially for freshers).

Let your answer contain net salary and approximate time to find a job as a junior java developer and how does this compare with the average salary in your country.

Rocco.

[ June 10, 2006: Message edited by: Rocco Feri ]
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Sri Jad
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Joined: Apr 25, 2005
Posts: 49
Mkt in india is good to get a IT job.You can expect around USD 6000/Year , may be more.That money is very much enough to lead a good life in india.Just my opinion..
Jay Shin
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Joined: May 14, 2004
Posts: 169

I would like to hear about the job market state in your country (especially for freshers).



Job market for entry-level programmers in the United States of America:

  • Graduates from Top tier schools (MIT, Stanford, Carnegie Mellon, UPenn, etc.) - Very Good
  • Others - Awful
  • Rocco Feri
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    Joined: Dec 17, 2005
    Posts: 25
    What's the net salary and approximate time to find a job as a junior java developer and how does this compare with the average salary in your country?
    gf morris
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    Joined: Aug 12, 2005
    Posts: 4
    I enjoyed the challenge and intellectual stimulation of SCJP and SCWCD success; however, in the job market these certifications are not of much benefit. Java programmers appear to be the province of "guest workers" and outsourcing. Programming is what President Bush considers "jobs Americans won't do".
    Jeroen T Wenting
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    Joined: Apr 21, 2006
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    Don't know what the current pay or career prospects in the Netherlands are, but pay at least is probably not much more than what I made when I started now nearly 10 years ago.
    I made then (converted to Euros) roughly �1200 a month before taxes.
    Salaries exploded during the .com boom, but imploded again in the collapse afterwards to the point where I now make about 15% less than I did in 2002, despite having several years more experience and quite a few expensive training courses to speak for me.

    With companies getting away with paying that much lower salaries than a few years ago to people with a decade of work experience I can only conclude that unemployment among experienced people is still high enough that there is not much of a market for juniors.
    Large corporations offshoring ever more of their IT work to eastern Europe and Asia doesn't help either. When ABN/AMRO or ING announce their latest layoffs which affect thousands that's thousands more unemployed IT workers to compete with, all of whom will have more experience and are more than willing to take a hefty cut in salary (else they loose their unemployment benefits, what little they have of that) to get a job, any job, that keeps them in the industry as after being unemployed for 6 months to a year they're forced by law to accept any job offer they're given even if it's a nightshift worker in a manufacturing plant or a job as a garbage collector.


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    Rocco Feri
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    Joined: Dec 17, 2005
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    How 'bout in the UK?
    London?
     
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