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Project Manager Vs. Business Analyst Vs. CRM Vs Architecture

Anuja S Shah
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Joined: May 01, 2006
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How's job market for Project Managers job in IT in USA in next few years?

Thank you,
Anuja Shah
[ June 15, 2006: Message edited by: Anuja S Shah ]
Anuja S Shah
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Joined: May 01, 2006
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Hey guys, why no one responding to my question. Please help me out. Also i want to add more my question as i am deciding any of following for my career:
--Business Analyst
--Project Manager
--CRM application specialist
--CRM developer
--Java Architecture
Which one of above will have bright & secure future market in USA?
Please help me out.

Thank you,
Anuja Shah
Amit Saini
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Joined: Oct 20, 2004
Posts: 280
Hi,
I'll try to answer the best I can.

First things first - there is no 'bright & secure' future in USA unless you get a GC/Citizenship. A lot of Indians make a lot of money - but companies as big as Microsoft, Oracle and Google can lay off too! Don't take me wrong, USA is a great country and its a wonderful experience to be here, but there's no security till you get a GC. That's a 4-5 year long process. Having said that, if you work for a fairly stable company with a good track record, your risk is minimized.

Next - are you coming from India on H1? I has been my personal experience that people who finish a MS/MBA degree from a reputable university have better chances at well paying jobs - since they're picked up from campus most times. That also helps you to be on a higher priority category for your greencard processing (most times). If you're seriously thinking of a 'bright & secure' future in USA, at some point, you'll have to get a higher degree from a good US university.

Here's my take on the job titles you mentioned:
1. Business Analyst - No title in the software industry is more overloaded than this. I've seen Quality Engineers, Software Engineers, Documentation guys - all fit into this category. Find out what your responsibility is instead of just looking at the title. It's really a very very broad title!

2. Project Manager - You need to be an expert at something to manage it well. Either coding or some tool - that bundled with good communication skills and organizational skills. I've not seen PMs being hired from outside much. Rather, these titles result due to internal promotions like
SE -> Senior SE - > Principal SE - >Team Lead / PM

3. CRM App Specialist / developer - These two really go hand in hand. While there are a lot of guys who don't have the technical know-how but are still experts at using the tool, I believe the ones who have a deeper understanding of the tool, architecture, customization details are better off - since they could do the other stuff anytime. Just my personal opinion.

4. Java Architecture - Can't comment much on this. I guess you need have beyond-normal OOP, Design, Java skills to be an architect. People take a decade sometimes to be the Software Architect in their organization. There really is no fixed career path for this. No one can 'make' you an architect! You just are, or you aren't born with that kind of a brain Just my opinion, again.

Whats the demand for each one? That's easy to find out. Just go to monster.com or craigslist.org and type in the job title for the city/region you're interested in. The number of results that show up should give you an idea of what the demand is like.

Enough now! Time to go to bed for me
Hope that helps,
Amit
[ June 16, 2006: Message edited by: Amit Saini ]
Pradeep bhatt
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Time to go to bed for me

Good night.


Groovy
Anuja S Shah
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Thank you Amit.
I am Green Card Holder. Also, I have 8 years of programming experience, 2 years of Project Leader experience with big companies in USA. Right now i am not working. I did BS in Microbiolgy, Medical Technology, Diploma in Computer applications from India.
I don't want to go to programming anymore when go back to work in couple of months.
I know you wrote me about CRM and PMP. If you can please give me more detail information about the role of CRM? How earn more i mean CRM or PMP?

Thank you,
Anuja
NJ Joshi
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Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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Thank you Amit.
I am Green Card Holder. Also, I have 8 years of programming experience, 2 years of Project Leader experience with big companies in USA. Right now i am not working. I did BS in Microbiolgy, Medical Technology, Diploma in Computer applications from India.
I don't want to go to programming anymore when go back to work in couple of months.
I know you wrote me about CRM and PMP. If you can please give me more detail information about the role of CRM? How earn more i mean CRM or PMP?

Thank you,
Anuja

Here is my Input based on years exp. ...
1. No body needs Indian Project Manager ...U can ger jobonly in Desi Companies who manages offshore /onsite kinda model ,also in case if they are unable to transport their pets from India due to lack of H1 or L1 visa on low salary once they get that guy u will be replaced ..
As CRM consultant u have some future again depends on which comapny u r going to work .
I dont see your educational background is fit for real programming job or Architect , as without programming /technology knowledge ,you can't be a architect.U can be just draftsman and i dont think IT/Software really need that ...,Also that needs years of development and design exp . on various projects to work on Enterprise application .


Your profile good for Business Anlayst or learn some kinda CRM tool .
Anuja S Shah
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Originally posted by NJ Joshi:

Your profile good for Business Anlayst or learn some kinda CRM tool .

Thank you NJ Joshi.
I am very new to CRM world. What kind of CRM tool i can learn? Learning CRM tools what kind of jobs i can get i mean CRM consultant or CRM developer? How much basic pay they get?

Plase let me know
Thank you,
Anuja Shah
NJ Joshi
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Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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CRM or ERM you have to choose for that ,you can easliy get starting pay of 60-80k depending on your efforts and company ,as u have GC u can also look for junior position for direct employment instead of consulting ,intially with lower salary but good for future .

Best of luck ...
Anuja S Shah
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Joined: May 01, 2006
Posts: 9
Originally posted by NJ Joshi:
CRM or ERM you have to choose for that ,you can easliy get starting pay of 60-80k depending on your efforts and company ,as u have GC u can also look for junior position for direct employment instead of consulting ,intially with lower salary but good for future .

Best of luck ...


Thank you again,
BTW, what is ERM? Also is Sieble CRM or Microsoft CRM tools good?
[ June 16, 2006: Message edited by: Anuja S Shah ]
Jay Shin
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Joined: May 14, 2004
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No body needs Indian Project Manager ...



True
Sumit Chopra
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Joined: May 26, 2006
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No body needs Indian Project Manager ...


I am not sure how true it is. I am working in a NASDAQ listed product development company not a desi offshoring one. We have many Indian managers and directors working out of US office. Even one of the VPs is Indian. The above statement is a poor generalization.
Anand Prabhu
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No body needs Indian Project Manager ...


Well, my company hired me as a developer and I went up to be a Project Manager. There are some Indian Project managers in my company which is an auto parts supplier and also a vendor providing specific solutions to non auto firms. I have dealt with Indian project managers in GM, Ford, Chrysler, Pfizer, Schering Plough, Bristoll Myers Squib, Arvin Meritor, etc in IT, Product development and design, Procurement, Finance, Parts etc divisions. I don't know why you would make the above statement so positively.
[ June 26, 2006: Message edited by: Anand Prabhu ]
 
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