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here are my findings

alfred jones
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stingy company:

1. Infosys
2. Wipro
3. CTS

dont know about the status of TCS ....IBM is on 50:50.

paymasters:
1. trillogy
2. BT
3. BEA
4. oracle
5.yahoo
6. Microsoft
7.AMDOCS
8.Google
9.cadence
10.freescale
alfred jones
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adding some more paymasters

11. Ariba
12. I2
13. AOL
14. Goldman Sach
15. Intel(beware ..they are cutting workforce)
16. webaroo
alfred jones
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17. de-shaw
18. Fair Issac
19. samsung
20. Texas Instruments
alfred jones
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some more paymasters...
21. amazon
22.IVY comptech
Rambo Prasad
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I worked in i2 Technologies for some time..I dont think they are pay masters...


Helping hands are much better than the praying lips
alfred jones
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rambo...glad to get a response from you...in fact i am doing a bit R&D on this topic and have come out with this list....i have taken help from your earlier list too.

nice to get a response from you.

if you find any company is not upto that mark i'll appreciate.
[ August 12, 2006: Message edited by: alfred jones ]
Rambo Prasad
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one more -Cisco
alfred jones
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do u have any information about sonoa systems ?

is that a paymaster ?
i did not get much info from the net....thouh some consultancy claim that....whats ur opinion ?
Rambo Prasad
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Hi Alfred,
But the cheap pay masters like infy,Tcs,Cts pay you well if they send you onsite.....So try negotiating for an onsite assignment...

That should offset any difference in the pay package...Besides you get international exposure....
alfred jones
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Here are some more list i collected from some trusted sources about paymasters...look here

1. Amber Point (www.amberpoint.com)
2. Scentric (www.scentric.com)
3. Sena Systems (www.senasystems.com)
4. Webaroo (www.webaroo.com)
5. Lehman Bros (www.lehman.com)
6. MSC Software (www.mscsoftware.com)
7. Intransa (www.intransa.com)
8. Zmanda (www.zmanda.com)
9. Blue Lane (www.bluelane.com)
10. BNP Paribas (www.bnpparibas.co.in)
11. NetScout (www.netscout.com)
12 Talentica (http://www.talentica.com)


please provide your opinion if you think they are not upto that mark.
alfred jones
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i wont apply infy ever....they pay very very poorly ....i have 2+ j2ee exp
alfred jones
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can you suggest how much(LPA) a 2+ exp j2ee guy expect from a paymaster company ?
Rambo Prasad
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for 2+ exp you can expect 10-11 lakh from Trilogy
8- De Shaw
8-Cisco
Amazon-9 lakh
Yahoo-8-9 lakh
Oracle - 8 lakh...

I dont think Microsoft would hire j2ee folks...
Rambo Prasad
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Alfred,
Would you mind disclosing the amount that Cts and Wipro were ready to pay....Because I was thinking of forwarding my resume to Cts .....
alfred jones
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[ August 12, 2006: Message edited by: alfred jones ]
alfred jones
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if u are having 2+ j2ee experience and looking for 5+ (LPA) package then CTS,WIPRO is not for you.

you might expect that much salary for 3+ exp probabily.

anyway, actually they are the bulk recruiters and they hire many people withe less packages.....they want high manpower.
Rambo Prasad
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i2 Technologies is currently recruting people...For 2+ exp they will pay something around 6 lakh...Work culture is very good..If you are interested do let me know...But development folks have negligible onsite opportunities there....
sridhar yenamandra
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The below mentioned figures are much more than actual figures. I agree these companies are good paymasters but obvoiusly not so much. I know it for sure because I have been working in one of the companies mentioned below and i know for sure whats the package is. Take out atleast 2lakh from what is mentioned below.

----------------------
for 2+ exp you can expect 10-11 lakh from Trilogy
8- De Shaw
8-Cisco
Amazon-9 lakh
Yahoo-8-9 lakh
Oracle - 8 lakh...
ankur rathi
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Originally posted by sridhar yenamandra:
The below mentioned figures are much more than actual figures. I agree these companies are good paymasters but obvoiusly not so much. I know it for sure because I have been working in one of the companies mentioned below and i know for sure whats the package is. Take out atleast 2lakh from what is mentioned below.

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for 2+ exp you can expect 10-11 lakh from Trilogy
8- De Shaw
8-Cisco
Amazon-9 lakh
Yahoo-8-9 lakh
Oracle - 8 lakh...


I don't know about others, but certainly Oracle doesn't pay this much. It's 5 LPA for 2 years.
alfred jones
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hi rambo...dont mind...but from your post it seems you give a high rating to i2 technology aganin you told you worked for them.

do u mean u have left i2 ? are u unhappy with i2 and so u have left it ? is the kind of work they are doing not good ? is there no learning exp in their work.

please share the details....because it seems a good company from their website and consultancy rating.

please throw some light
alfred jones
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>It's 5 LPA for 2 years.

my friends started their career as a freshers in oracle with 4.2 LPA....i dont know how much they are gettinh now after 2 yrs...because i dont have any contact now.

i got a call from oracle too. they told they would provide 50% hike....but i did not like the work....in fact they were doing PL/SQL work.

I wish to continue my career in java/j2ee.
[ June 28, 2006: Message edited by: alfred jones ]
alfred jones
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i have confusion on SAP lab .

do they really work in java/j2ee ?
because i have heard they have some requirement on java/j2ee.
ankur rathi
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Originally posted by alfred jones:
>It's 5 LPA for 2 years.

my friends started their career as a freshers in oracle with 4.2 LPA....i dont know how much they are gettinh now after 2 yrs...because i dont have any contact now.

i got a call from oracle too. they told they would provide 50% hike....but i did not like the work....in fact they were doing PL/SQL work.

I wish to continue my career in java/j2ee.

[ June 28, 2006: Message edited by: alfred jones ]



Yes, I think, you are right. They gives 50% hike. My friend got 5 LPA because his current was around 2.5 LPA for 2 years.

And yes, they do give around 4 LPA for fresher.

alfred jones
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in fact they told they would provide the traininh on PL/SQL ....but you know i have invested lot of time in learning java/j2ee and love it....its not possible to change the stream just because of money.

Anyway, Guys....it seems you people keep some information on companies who provide the high onsite opportunities.....could please add something more in this list..

sure onsite opportunities company list:
----------------------------------------
1. AMDOCS
// plz add some more


thanks
abhishek roy
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Add LogicaCMG for onsite oppurtunities


regards,<br />Abhishek
alfred jones
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thanks...
updated...

guranted onsite wala company:
1.AMDOCS
2.LogicCMG
Rambo Prasad
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hi rambo...dont mind...but from your post it seems you give a high rating to i2 technology aganin you told you worked for them.

do u mean u have left i2 ? are u unhappy with i2 and so u have left it ? is the kind of work they are doing not good ? is there no learning exp in their work.

please share the details....because it seems a good company from their website and consultancy rating.

please throw some light


Alfred,

i2 is a supply chain management company....It was once a very good pay master...I did my internship in i2....The work culture is relaxed and it is a employee friendly company.....Some time back they even had a order management system in each and every employees desktop.The employees can order pizzas and i2 would pay for that...But people started misusing ..lot of stuff used to go waste and people started ordering and taking it home...Then they stopped it....

The reason I left i2 was I felt I could end up working in some properitery stuff like BPE framework and Ros which were developed by i2...Besides it looked like there are other better companies lined for the final placements in my favourite domains.....My decision was not a well thought out decision but just an impulsive decision...I decided to take a risk and give a shot to other companies....

But the only downside now for i2 is financially they not doing that well...They took some wrong decisions like buying a company called aspect for 9 billion $ in 2000..That was one of the biggest deal in the software history...

But still the 6 months I spent in i2 was a good experience
alfred jones
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thanks rambo..for such a detailed information about this company.
thank you very much
ankur rathi
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Originally posted by alfred jones:
thanks...
updated...

guranted onsite wala company:
1.AMDOCS
2.LogicCMG


HSBC, Pune
Abhijit Kumar
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Originally posted by alfred jones:
Here are some more list i collected from some trusted sources about paymasters...look here

1. Amber Point (www.amberpoint.com)
2. Scentric (www.scentric.com)
3. Sena Systems (www.senasystems.com)
4. Webaroo (www.webaroo.com)
5. Lehman Bros (www.lehman.com)
6. MSC Software (www.mscsoftware.com)
7. Intransa (www.intransa.com)
8. Zmanda (www.zmanda.com)
9. Blue Lane (www.bluelane.com)
10. BNP Paribas (www.bnpparibas.co.in)
11. NetScout (www.netscout.com)
12 Talentica (http://www.talentica.com)


please provide your opinion if you think they are not upto that mark.


How did you find all these companies ? I even don't know the names of most ...

Sumit Chopra
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Originally posted by Abhijit Kumar:


How did you find all these companies ? I even don't know the names of most ...



That's a good research done. I know talentica. I had an offer from them sometime back. I had 2 yrs exp at that time and they offered me 5+. Not a great pay, but still very good in Pune. I know Amberpoint and Netscout both pay very well as and they are in top pay bracket in Pune.
alfred jones
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somebody please give some details of SAP Lab....how are the java/j2ee work there ? i highly doubt it because it seems a core SAP company.....anyway, can anybody tell me the details of infrastructure,employee strength etc etc of this company.
Pradeep bhatt
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Originally posted by alfred jones:
somebody please give some details of SAP Lab....how are the java/j2ee work there ? i highly doubt it because it seems a core SAP company.....anyway, can anybody tell me the details of infrastructure,employee strength etc etc of this company.


There is a good amount of Java/JEE work in SAP Lab. Some guys get to travel to Germany for 2-3 months.Pay is also good.


Groovy
alfred jones
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thanks.
Sumit Chopra
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I attended SAP labs interview last weekend when they were in Pune. They interviewed me in core java, c, and some basic n/w stuff. I asked what the work is . They said they have some billing or inventory related handheld instrument and a middleware to support it. The entire work is going to be in core java. They do not use j2ee.

I do not know but there may be other products which would use j2ee.
alfred jones
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sumit, do you know how much approx they offer for 2+ exp java/j2ee folks ?

i have heard they offer 4.7 LPA for freshers.

BTW, how many employess are there ? how is the infrastructure ? do they have their own building ? how many branches in india ?
alfred jones
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adding some more paymasters...

Storeperform
Telelogic
Adobe
Supportsoft
Ojos
Sonoa
Sumit Chopra
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I did not go that far in the interview for salary negotiations. I attended only one round of technical interviews and backed out of the second round when they said there is no J2EE profile.

It's is a very good company but for me job profile is more important than just a big company name. I do not know the exact salary details for freshers. But they pay very well. So 4.7 for freshers could be possible.
Sim Kim
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Hey guys,

Waht about Triple Point ( TPT ) and T-systems !

I heard they have good pay . Any inputs fromPune guys ?
alfred jones
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i want to add few more Paymasters in my list.....

Lucent Technologies
PICORP
FIRST INDAIN CORPORATION
JULYSYSTEM
 
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